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Old 14-01-2006, 05:58 PM
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Web site running slow

not sure if something is wrong, but it has just taken forever to upload my hello to sharyn and then done a double,I have been upgraded to 4 meg by blueyonder so I do not want for speed!
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Old 14-01-2006, 07:38 PM
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Re: whats happening now?

I've noticed some delays as well, I suspect it might be something to do with the SQL database based on past experience. I did check the routing and didn't see anything unusual there, even when I was waiting for pages to appear.
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Old 14-01-2006, 07:54 PM
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Maybe the database tables are carrying overheads and need optimising?

I run several sites using the same software as WAB - and I find I need to optimise the tables about once a month, especially on the big sites (20k members)
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Old 16-01-2006, 10:34 AM
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Re: whats happening now?

Thanks for the tip guys. We've been trying lots of things to sort the recent speed problems out, but totally forgot about optimising the tables

We've just optimised them, so fingers crossed it has done the trick.
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Old 16-01-2006, 10:57 AM
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Re: whats happening now?

For me now, almost instantanious. Thanks
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Old 16-01-2006, 06:22 PM
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Re: whats happening now?

Looks like the problem is still about, but it seems as though it's worst at certain times of the day - usually around noon and 7pm

Still can't work out why it's going wrong
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Old 16-01-2006, 06:52 PM
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Have you got any Cron jobs running at those times?

Or maybe it's simpler.... Lunchtime and after tea

If you're running on a shared server it may not be your site that's causing the slowdown.
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Old 16-01-2006, 07:01 PM
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Re: whats happening now?

No crons running.

We're on a VPS so we have are own allocated services on a shared server, so in theory we shouldn't be affected by other user accounts - that's the theory anyway

We seem to be getting a bad hit for about 15/20 minutes, and are load averages go right up, then suddenly everything is back to normal for 6 hours.

Everytime we get in touch with support, they just show us the load averages after the storm when everything is back to normal
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Old 16-01-2006, 07:18 PM
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I'd take a screen grab illustrating your server load and send that to them.
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Old 16-01-2006, 07:23 PM
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Re: whats happening now?

Put them in touch with me, I am getting a blank screen in between forum jumps and it is still very slow
I have turned off firewall anti virus etc.I have 4meg so it is nowt I am doing
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Old 16-01-2006, 08:01 PM
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Re: whats happening now?

Our web hosts now assure us that it's something to do with the cache/accellerator software on the server, so they're installing a fresh copy. I'm not holding my breath.
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Old 17-01-2006, 04:04 PM
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It has suddenly got a lot quicker,is this it now?
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Old 17-01-2006, 05:17 PM
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It's running a good as a good thing that got good here
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Old 17-01-2006, 05:30 PM
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Re: whats happening now?

We can only hope so. We've had a couple of spikes on the server's load throughout the day, which slowed things down a bit, but overall it has been a lot better.
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Old 18-01-2006, 05:14 AM
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Re: whats happening now?

It seems to be running like a corgi with a millstone round it's neck this morning

I'm getting 30sec - 1min delays between pages.
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Old 18-01-2006, 07:45 AM
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While you were sleeping

Sorry

The Gremlins were at it again last night and we had what was basically another blackout for the last 10 hours.

The company that provides our virtual server has let us down again and despite paying good for money for their supposed 99.9% uptime, this is the second major blackout this month.
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Old 18-01-2006, 09:58 AM
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Re: whats happening now?

I had a couple of hours to spare this morning and thought I'd have a really good look at everything and guess what, it's nearly 11-0am and I've only just got through, blank pages again.
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Old 18-01-2006, 10:17 AM
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I thought you had decided to keep office hours Stu
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Old 23-01-2006, 05:36 AM
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Wab disappeared yesterday ,this morning I only had the top 4 inchesof the page 3 refreshes before I got it all
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Old 23-01-2006, 05:46 AM
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Re: whats happening now?

Yesterday, the techies upgraded the system's Kernel (the thing that controls the processors) and it should have taken a few minutes, but ended up taking nearly an hour.

Not sure what the other problem is about, so we'll keep an eye out today and see if anything crops up.

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Old 23-01-2006, 05:49 AM
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Same here. Yesterday I got " page cannot be displayed " message for over an hour then this morning I got a blank page several times.
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Old 23-01-2006, 03:40 PM
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It's flying along now - fastest I've seen it
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Re: Web site running slow

WAB has always been slow for me and I am on a SuperJanet network. I put it down to the style on the forum templates. On the majority of days it just crawls along agonisingly slow, which is why I don't appear here that often.

What version of sql and php is being used by the hosting company - will it have an effect? Are you running any vB modifications or hacks that could generate extra queries?
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Old 24-01-2006, 03:23 PM
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Re: Web site running slow

Apache 1.3.34, Mysql 4.0.25, PHP 4.3.11 and eAccellerator

We've only got a couple of hacks and they're well used in the vB community with no signs of slowing forums down and it's same with the template.

Having said that, there's quite a bit of javascript in the template and latest threads info for the forum and front page, resulting in a page size of about 160kb, which could really do with being optimised.

The slow problems that we've been having over the past week or so look to have been caused by a fault in configuring the eAccellerator, but for the last few days we've been back to normal.

On every PC that I try the site on (all broadband) the pages appear within 2-3 seconds at the most. I'd be very interested to know why you're only getting crawling speeds - what browser are you using?
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Old 24-01-2006, 03:27 PM
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Re: Web site running slow

As mentioned by me in another thread, I am not experiencing this slowness, and neither is my local library where WAB links flew along this a.m.
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