WAB Badge - Page 10

Cazzie · #**226** (**permalink**) 01-08-2007, 05:03 PM

I'd like one too please!

How they coming on... got any ready yet?!?

Actually just had a thought... I'm lucky enough that I spend alot of time at home, so if you'd like some help distributing the badges I'd be more than happy to help out if I can!

eeyore · #**227** (**permalink**) 01-08-2007, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Cazzie

I'd like one too please!

How they coming on... got any ready yet?!?

Actually just had a thought... I'm lucky enough that I spend alot of time at home, so if you'd like some help distributing the badges I'd be more than happy to help out if I can!

as far as i know we are no further forward - stu has been busy with this and that and i have been contending with storm/flood damage and suffering a deceased computer.

it will happen but there is no definite date - when it does stu may well take you up on your kind offer of help as i know it was the mailling out , standing in post office queue etc which was the big pain in the neck during the calendar project last year.

scribe · #**228** (**permalink**) 02-08-2007, 12:42 PM

Way back on 4th June I began a posting about some badges I had made. Stu then posted a message that he was ordering badges that week, 4th June, so I aborted my idea. However, I still have the badges and would like to offer them for sale, bearing in mind that a donation will be going to WAB as discussed with Eeyore back in June.

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George

StuartDH · #**229** (**permalink**) 02-08-2007, 01:44 PM

We're still looking to produce badges and we've now made a good quality version of the logo, but have a lot of procedures to be put in place before we can sell them - online merchant account, shop, secure payment, distribution etc. I'm moving house at the moment and don't have an address for the above to be sent to, but once I've got the completion date and moved I'll be able to get it all done.

Until then, the charity won't allow any other badges to be made as we're looking to develop the logo/brand and want to maintain quality control etc.

Stuart

eeyore · #**230** (**permalink**) 02-08-2007, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by StuartDH

We're still looking to produce badges and we've now made a good quality version of the logo, but have a lot of procedures to be put in place before we can sell them - online merchant account, shop, secure payment, distribution etc. I'm moving house at the moment and don't have an address for the above to be sent to, but once I've got the completion date and moved I'll be able to get it all done.

Until then, the charity won't allow any other badges to be made as we're looking to develop the logo/brand and want to maintain quality control etc.

Stuart

i'd just like to say that allthough i did discuss the non authorised badges with scribe back in june , i did not give that venture my support - at the time I made it expolicitly clear that I do not and cannot speak for the charity and that only stu / trustees are in a position to authorise such a venture. I also have grave doubts about "a donation being made to wab" in my view all the profit from any badge production should come to wab rather than just a percentage as suggested.

I'd also like to make explicitly clear that in this as in all such things Stu and the wab charity have my full support and that I believe that he has taken exactly the right decision in building a brand with all products using the same logo.

The offer of my time, contacts and if necessary seedcorn funding as originally mooted is still there but I fully understand that stu has multiple pressures on his time and am content to wait for as long as it takes. I would suggest that apart from registering interest in buying one or more, everyone else does likewise as constant "reminders" will do nothing to accelerate the process , and in fact will probably slow it down as stu will have to take /waste time in responding to them.

Cazzie · #**231** (**permalink**) 02-08-2007, 03:27 PM

Well good luck with the house move Stuart (been there, done that recently

) but it's worth all the agro in the end lol!

Just bear me in mind if you do need a hand when things are ready ok!

NigelT · #**232** (**permalink**) 02-08-2007, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by StuartDH

We're still looking to produce badges and we've now made a good quality version of the logo, but have a lot of procedures to be put in place before we can sell them - online merchant account, shop, secure payment, distribution etc. I'm moving house at the moment and don't have an address for the above to be sent to, but once I've got the completion date and moved I'll be able to get it all done.

Until then, the charity won't allow any other badges to be made as we're looking to develop the logo/brand and want to maintain quality control etc.

Stuart

Just found this thread so not up to speed. i am assuming the intention is a sort of WAB badge if your out and about in trhe thickets delving for nature so if you spy another you can identify one another. Sounds good. If I have this correct consider me in for one.

nightshade · #**233** (**permalink**) 02-08-2007, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Cazzie

I'd like one too please!

How they coming on... got any ready yet?!?

Actually just had a thought... I'm lucky enough that I spend alot of time at home, so if you'd like some help distributing the badges I'd be more than happy to help out if I can!

If that is the sticking point, I (well o.k. the lioness) am quite happy to stick badges in envelopes.

scribe · #**234** (**permalink**) 02-08-2007, 08:55 PM

[/quote] i'd just like to say that allthough i did discuss the non authorised badges with scribe back in june , i did not give that venture my support - at the time I made it expolicitly clear that I do not and cannot speak for the charity and that only stu / trustees are in a position to authorise such a venture. I also have grave doubts about "a donation being made to wab" in my view all the profit from any badge production should come to wab rather than just a percentage as suggested. [/quote]

This project was being done with the best of intentions just to tide us over until the enamel badges arrive. - it was never going to be a "Get Rich Quick" scheme. There have been one or two people keen on identifying each other at various venues, me being one of them. I think I was about the fifth or sixth person to order four enamel badges as soon as the idea was mentioned. There is absolutley no need for anyone to feel threatened - as I said, it was all done with the best of intentions. Look back at my first post about this 4th June 01.09 PM.

I must say that I feel hurt by the comments posted by eeyore today, which contradicts the posting he made on 4th June. I never said that eeyore was with me on this, I said that I had discussed the matter with him on postings. I was responding to the many requests for badges - mine were a temporary stopgap.

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Originally Posted by eeyore

so long as the donation is a reasonable proportion of the profit I can live with that (assuming stu is okay with it too) , and you are to be commended for taking some initiative - as i was getting tired of people hassling for the badge project to be moved up without wanting to actually put any effort in themselves

i would suggest that it would be a good idea to say what % of each pound you envisage going to wab as this might encourage people to buy.

I was unable to calculate any profits/losses/donations/percentages until I had some idea of the quantity involved.

I have now destroyed the badges and you will find no more postings on this subject by scribe.

I look forward to reading postings on other subjects and have no desire to be involved further with this discussion.

Kind regards.

eeyore · #**235** (**permalink**) 03-08-2007, 01:40 PM

whilst it is not my intention to hurt your feelings scribe and i accept that your motivation was honourable, i have two things to say to your response

a)as your quote shows i originally said that i was okay with it only if stu was - because I am am not authorised to make decisions of this nature on behalf of the charity

and

b) personally i would do not consider the 10% you were suggesting to be a "reasonable proportion of the profit" - when i said that i was thinking more of 99% with a litle out to cover your costs.

however that is a dead issue now and i have no wish to further prolong the argument.

i would suggest that in future anyone who wants to make wab merchandise of anykind whether temporaru stop gap or permanent contacts stu before producing any goods

eeyore · #**236** (**permalink**) 03-08-2007, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by nightshade

If that is the sticking point, I (well o.k. the lioness) am quite happy to stick badges in envelopes.

I suspect you are correct that logistics are one of the major issues - i know they certainly were for calendar distribution last year

however a possible obstacle to the kind offers of help is that of getting badges, calendars and what have you to the volunteer stuffers and also the charities obligations under the DPA as regards disseminating the names and addresses of purchasers.

perhaps what we should do when we get to that stage is have a meet somewhere central where a few volunteer stuffers can get together with stu and help him stuff ?

Interpreter · #**237** (**permalink**) 03-08-2007, 03:56 PM

And me.

Purplepixii · #**238** (**permalink**) 03-08-2007, 06:29 PM

Count me in as a helping envelope-stuffer if the location is central. In fact, count me in for anything I can help with logistically

Meles meles · #**239** (**permalink**) 03-08-2007, 09:46 PM

Any time you need a hand with things like this, Let us know please.
If i can come and help, always a pleasure.
Good to meet peeps as well.

Put me down for a badge (or two)

Thanks

Adam Cheeseman · #**240** (**permalink**) 23-08-2007, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Boddie

Realistically we are not going to be able to fit WILDABOUTBRITAIN on a badge - not that folk are going to be able to read anyway unless we just have this wording.

Is there any real benefit to having WAB on it?

What is the purpose of the badge?

Is it for identification reasons, or to promote the site?

Personally if it were me I would do one of the following

I would just choose an image that everyone would recognise as being WAB's image. Something simple like a fungi or a butterfly or moth (6 spot Burnett for example)

A simple badge with wildaboutbritain or WAB written on it, in the same sort of style as the Barbour badge

I think if you ask people for an iconic species we'll be here 'til Devil's Dancing Day trying to agree which one. I'd keep it simple and go for WAB. The RSPB already do a wide range of other wildlife species enamel badges. I'd also have one too.

Cheers,

Adam

eeyore · #**241** (**permalink**) 23-08-2007, 02:30 PM

i think it has been decided by stu/trustees that we will use the wild about britain logo as at the top of ever page because they want to establish this as a brand for the site displayed on all merchandise , letter head etc

Adam Cheeseman · #**242** (**permalink**) 23-08-2007, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by eeyore

i think it has been decided by stu/trustees that we will use the wild about britain logo as at the top of ever page because they want to establish this as a brand for the site displayed on all merchandise , letter head etc

Sorry Eeyore, I hadn't read all the replies before I made my reply.

NigelT · #**243** (**permalink**) 23-08-2007, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by eeyore

Having looked at some prices if stu is agreable I would be willing to stake the cash for, and organise production of either a 25mm enamel badge or a 3" iron on patch (note this is an either/ or as i cant afford to stake both)

design wise it can be up to 5 colours so the photographic designs we have for car stickers will not work, so i would suggest that we use the green UJ or another similar design (when I get home tonight I will put a couple of possible designs up)

Price wise either of these will be about £3 plus 50p postage and packing and I would want to see at least 100 pre ordered before i laid out the dough (note we could do it with 50 but the price will be higher)

alternatively or additionally we could get much more cheaply made 25mm button badges which would be 50p each plus 50p p+p (min order of 100)

There isnt a lot of profit in either of these but whatever there is would naturally go to the site.

Hi eeyore.

How about just WAB in the same font as the web page on a circular enamel pin badge so anyone can fit it to any coat etc. with perhaps a plain green pic of britains map behind on the same blue background as on the web site.

After all it doesn't need to be too complicated so anyone would see it from a distance if out walking etc. and everyone would know the badge from the web anyway when launched.

Price looks good. personally I would like to see a badge not of material so that one badge would fit all.

Good luck with the design. Whatever is decided design wise I'm up for one at least.

Thizle · #**244** (**permalink**) 23-08-2007, 05:43 PM

The badge sounds a nice idea, a good point of identification for like minded people, please put my name down for 2, the boss she hates to be left out of things lol regards Jon

eeyore · #**245** (**permalink**) 23-08-2007, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by NigelT

Hi eeyore.

How about just WAB in the same font as the web page on a circular enamel pin badge so anyone can fit it to any coat etc. with perhaps a plain green pic of britains map behind on the same blue background as on the web site.

After all it doesn't need to be too complicated so anyone would see it from a distance if out walking etc. and everyone would know the badge from the web anyway when launched.

Price looks good. personally I would like to see a badge not of material so that one badge would fit all.

Good luck with the design. Whatever is decided design wise I'm up for one at least.

hi nigel - we have moved on a bit from the original post if you read the rest of the thread ( Yep ten pages worth gulp) you will see that design has been finalised on the wab logo as at the top of the page and that my involvement with this is limited as stu is taking it forwards (or will when he has time)

i think there was a seperate thread for pre orders which has dropped off the radar a bit tho i'm sure stu will bump that back up when he is ready to proceed

nightshade · #**246** (**permalink**) 24-08-2007, 09:53 AM

I thought that the interested membership had decided on the
square green badge with brass lettering
Classy,discrete it was after all an ID not a corporate logo
We could use a circular badge with Wild About Britain on the
periphery and a monogrammed WAB centrepiece

NigelT · #**247** (**permalink**) 24-08-2007, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by eeyore

hi nigel - we have moved on a bit from the original post if you read the rest of the thread ( Yep ten pages worth gulp) you will see that design has been finalised on the wab logo as at the top of the page and that my involvement with this is limited as stu is taking it forwards (or will when he has time)

i think there was a seperate thread for pre orders which has dropped off the radar a bit tho i'm sure stu will bump that back up when he is ready to proceed

Sure thing eeyore. Sorry if I had retraced a previous step (or two or three by the sounds of it).

The 'skipper' leads the crew and whatever is set up is fine for all as I see it.

I used to chair a management committee for a housing society and know what its like trying to please everyone! There will always be those for and against anything.

All credit to everyone involved for getting it together and spending the time organising it all.
I will look out for the thread or leader for the issue of the badge in due time.

Is there to be a pre-order to ascertain numbers or deposit system to defray costs?
(Rhetorical question that whatever will be will be it due time.)

All the best with it all. NigT

eeyore · #**248** (**permalink**) 24-08-2007, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by nightshade

I thought that the interested membership had decided on the
square green badge with brass lettering
Classy,discrete it was after all an ID not a corporate logo
We could use a circular badge with Wild About Britain on the
periphery and a monogrammed WAB centrepiece

Originally this was the case , however after meeting with the trustees of the charity Stu DH decided that all wab merchandise would be based on the site logo (as shown at the top of the screen) in order to establish a brand for the site and charity.

Clearly the responsibility for making this decision rests soley with stu and the trustees and therefore the design is finalised and no longer up for debate

eeyore · #**249** (**permalink**) 24-08-2007, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by NigelT

Is there to be a pre-order to ascertain numbers or deposit system to defray costs?
(Rhetorical question that whatever will be will be it due time.)

All the best with it all. NigT

there is another thread called something like wab badge pre orders which people can use to express an interest - Tho imagine that once he is ready to press the go button stu will sort out a more definite booking / preorder system.