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02-01-2007, 09:26 AM
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I was told of a newspaper article that suggests that the majority of people
are happy with their i-pods and would be quite happy to live in a world with
no wildlife 
So if you had to save/conserve something what would it be?saving individual
animals with nowhere for them to live and breed would be cruel.
I think it would have to be trees,vertical habitat in a crowded world
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02-01-2007, 04:06 PM
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I think unfortunately that mankind is the problem, so maybe I would save : Everything else!
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02-01-2007, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by badgerwatcher  I think unfortunately that mankind is the problem, so maybe I would save : Everything else! | Couldn't have said it better myself Badgerwatcher. |
02-01-2007, 04:45 PM
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A world without wildlife is like trying to imagine a world without light and oxygen - impossible.  |
02-01-2007, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by saxonraven A world without wildlife is like trying to imagine a world without light and oxygen - impossible. | Agreed. |
02-01-2007, 05:03 PM
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I would certainly not be bothered were the human race to cease, (except how would I know?). Would rather the earth ran wild, rather than the small pockets of nature that man is trying to create. |
02-01-2007, 05:05 PM
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Doesn't that just go to prove that some folks are stupid?  Which idiot with an ipod thinks that he/she would still be here on earth if there was no wildlife. . . now that is dumb. What on earth are they being taught in schools? What do we have to do to get it through to folks? This is a sealed unit we are living in - albeit a big one - but everything in it is dependant on some other thing for the whole to work . . . oh boy. . . I shall have to climb off my soapbox before I explode |
02-01-2007, 05:43 PM
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I totally agree with you PMG but I think your soapbox will need to expand to accommodate the whole WAB membership.
It never ceases to amaze me (to put it mildly!) what motivates and stimulates some people.
They need to get a life .... looking at real life in the natural world would be an excellent start, then hopefully appreciating what we are doing to our planet and beginning to make a personal contribution to conservation and sustainability.
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02-01-2007, 07:03 PM
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I cannot imagine the thinking behind that ridiculous statement, to me personally wildlife is my world, I live and breath it and even have the pleasure of working in the fantastic english countryside.
The vast majority of people in this world walk this earth with either their eyes closed or with blinkers on, taking no interest in the wider enviroment beyond the strange worlds to which they willingly confine themselves. 
Its a very sad fact but the best thing for planet earth would be the extinction of mankind. |
02-01-2007, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by nightshade I was told of a newspaper article that suggests that the majority of people
are happy with their i-pods and would be quite happy to live in a world with
no wildlife
So if you had to save/conserve something what would it be?saving individual
animals with nowhere for them to live and breed would be cruel.
I think it would have to be trees,vertical habitat in a crowded world |
Hhahahahaha, most folk with i-pods dont know what TREES are, let alone wildlife.
As for saving, thats a tough one, id rather try and save ALL wildlife, if possible, im not really into the whole save or delete attitude when it comes to wildlife. It IS important, its ALL important!!!
Fagus
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02-01-2007, 08:25 PM
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I couldn't bare a world without wildlife. I live, breathe and sleep it.I'd expire I'm afraid.
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02-01-2007, 08:43 PM
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Years ago my mum never had an I-pod, or a computer, or a mobile phone, or a television.
My god, that poor woman. |
02-01-2007, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Fourwings I cannot imagine the thinking behind that ridiculous statement, to me personally wildlife is my world, I live and breath it and even have the pleasure of working in the fantastic english countryside.
The vast majority of people in this world walk this earth with either their eyes closed or with blinkers on, taking no interest in the wider enviroment beyond the strange worlds to which they willingly confine themselves.
Its a very sad fact but the best thing for planet earth would be the extinction of mankind. | You took the words out of my mouth Steve.... perhaps not all of us tho... WAB members to be left to admire and wonder maybe? 
jaki
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02-01-2007, 09:50 PM
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I have ordered a book; Bill McKibben The End of Nature (Amazon marketplace) it is recommended by the authors of The Natural Hedgehog (The Welsh Hedgehog Hospital)
and concerns the changes man has wrought
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03-01-2007, 09:42 AM
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There's nothing wrong with ipods though folks, it must be said. I have one. It even has bird song samples on it so I can learn to recognise more of them. I use mine to listen to a little of my own music if I'm in a captive environment, very crowded places or on long coach journeys, that sort of thing. But when I'm out and about outside it gets put away. I wouldn't want to miss anything.
The same can be said of strong perfumes - they're a blindfold for the nose. The world is full of interesting scents and aromas that tell you so much if you're attuned to them. |
03-01-2007, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Wild-Woman I couldn't bare a world without wildlife. I live, breathe and sleep it.I'd expire I'm afraid. | well everybody would being that so much of our food and medicine production is dependant on some element of wildlife or at least semi-natural habitat. |
03-01-2007, 10:10 AM
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Thats why you have to start to educate children from 5 yrs onwards.. Show them how much fun it can be learning about and helping to save our wildlife... The thing is to make it FUN with lots of Hands on Experiences...Show them how to use computors to identify wildlife and Ipods to download animal, Birds and Insect sounds.... We have to encourage them even if it means using all these modern (confusing) Items...
These are the generation that will be responsible for Saving our Planet and its Wildlife (including plants and trees) |
03-01-2007, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Kymba Thats why you have to start to educate children from 5 yrs onwards.. Show them how much fun it can be learning about and helping to save our wildlife... The thing is to make it FUN with lots of Hands on Experiences...Show them how to use computors to identify wildlife and Ipods to download animal, Birds and Insect sounds.... We have to encourage them even if it means using all these modern (confusing) Items...
These are the generation that will be responsible for Saving our Planet and its Wildlife (including plants and trees) | I agree with what all has been said by everyone here but there is one element that we must remember: EVERYONE needs to be re-educated into the ways of the wild thing and those that cannot understand the necessity of environment, wildlife etc need psychotherapy URGENTLY!!! The government should make it compulsory - then people would understand the need for recycling, the need to use one's legs rather than one's wheels all the time and to appreciate the beauty of wildlife, wild places and the wild thing in one's heart clammering to get out.
You take from society that which you find useful and leave the rest behind. Most of what is produced these days is superfluous to requirement but if you find a use for an item such as an iPod (I own up, I have one but keep it aside for listening to when I am on the bus going to/from work) that is individual to you, then that is fine. The problem is that most of these gadgets divorce people from nature, from themselves and in the end do nothing to enhance our lives at all. Its a balance thing.  |
03-01-2007, 11:44 AM
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Even as alarming and stupid as the statement is, im not surprised by this in the slightest.
Lets not forget, the majoity of people that the quote refers to dont even know(or care) where McCain oven chips come from. |
03-01-2007, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by lewisa Even as alarming and stupid as the statement is, im not surprised by this in the slightest.
Lets not forget, the majoity of people that the quote refers to dont even know(or care) where McCain oven chips come from. | Very true - by the way what are McCain oven chips? |
03-01-2007, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by saxonraven Very true - by the way what are McCain oven chips? | I presume you dont reside in the UK. I thought they were ubiquitous.
Why its only the tastiest low fat processed potatoe product money can buy
'Most people' under the age of about 18 dont know what a potatoe is, let alone what you can make from them, or so we are lead to believe by the media at least.
If it is true, and not just media paranoia, the younger generation dont know what a potatoe is - the staple of their diet since Walter Raleigh brought them back from the new world, therefore its no surprise that they would rather have their ipod than wildlife.
This leads me to question the statement, because all the 18 year olds I meet actually do know what a potatoe is, contradicting the media hype, therefore Im coming to the conclusion that the media report making this cliam is false.
10% of people quite quickly becomes 'majority of people' where newspapers are concerned. |
03-01-2007, 01:26 PM
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An aquaintance of mine, a man in his late thirties, said to me one day, 'I've just bought some of those potatoes, you know, the sort you peel?'
Another, in his late twenties, asked me how to make shepherd's pie, so I started with the usual-'fry some chopped onion,' etc., but he stopped me, and said, 'do you have to take the yellow stuff off the onion?'
Words on both occasions, and rarely for me, failed me!
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03-01-2007, 01:58 PM
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[quote=lewisa;82174]I presume you dont reside in the UK. I thought they were ubiquitous.
Yes I live in England. Chips are ubiquitous but not in my diet. Haven't had chips in yonks! |
03-01-2007, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by badgerwatcher I think unfortunately that mankind is the problem, so maybe I would save : Everything else! | Agreed, and then some |
05-01-2007, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by lewisa Lets not forget, the majoity of people that the quote refers to dont even know(or care) where McCain oven chips come from. |
Now now, lewisa, that's definitely wrong. I think most people know that oven chips come from the supermarket (as most food does).
henrya
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