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29-12-2006, 03:20 PM
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Hi peeps. Just come in from a day volunteering on a local reserve. Trouble is I've brought back about half a dozen thorns and prickles embedded in my hands and one somewhere I'd rather not discuss. Anyone got the -How to get thorns out without pain book handy. And yes, I did where gloves but brambles, hawthorns and roses just won't give up.
Julie ouch ouch 
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29-12-2006, 03:56 PM
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You need to get a bottle of your favourite alcoholic drink, drink it & then get your bloke to dig them out. 
Or you could wait for them to come out on their own.  |
29-12-2006, 04:10 PM
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A very sharp fine needle and the other half weilding it should remove them Julie, or as Deer Stalker said you could just leave them. They usually start to fester within a couple of days and work there way to the surface on there own. I prefer the digging them out way though, less painfull in the long run.
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29-12-2006, 04:23 PM
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Yes, I agree - in most cases best to wait for them to come out on their own ... except that they tend to be on the tip of your index finger or some part of the anatomy that's constantly under pressure. If you do want to dig them out then do it after a bath or at least washing the appropriate part in warm water .... |
29-12-2006, 05:05 PM
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Hawthorn or is it blackthorn? are buggers and go septic. I spent most of the summer dealing with them in my arms and hands.
I also have so many white scars on my forearms im beginning to look like a "self harmer"....so much for being a volunteer and doing my bit to help i now do my bit to scare people off thinking im a nutcase?
Incidentally....you all know that technically a rose has "prickles" and not thorns at all !!
Makes all those songs worthless really. "Every Rose has its prickle?"
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29-12-2006, 05:16 PM
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Remove those that will come easily,blackthorn etc. will go septic if left,treat with TCP
or similar antiseptic.Magnesium sulphate will draw stubborn ones make sure to clean out whole thorns do not leave any bits.A bath is useful the thorns will show as black dots
on pink
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29-12-2006, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan Salter  Hawthorn or is it blackthorn? are buggers and go septic. I spent most of the summer dealing with them in my arms and hands.
I also have so many white scars on my forearms im beginning to look like a "self harmer"....so much for being a volunteer and doing my bit to help i now do my bit to scare people off thinking im a nutcase?
Incidentally....you all know that technically a rose has "prickles" and not thorns at all !!
Makes all those songs worthless really. "Every Rose has its prickle?"
Dan | I heard Blackthorn has a type of fungus on its thorns & thats why the scratches go septic.
Gorse clearance is a nightmare. You get small puncture marks up your arms & legs even through your clothes. People see your arms & think your a Herion junkie.
& don't it sting when you get in the bath or shower after a conservation task?  |
29-12-2006, 05:20 PM
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Yes it certainly does...my tip is dont wash ...until the summers over...that way no one wants to get close enough to see your self harming scratches and herOIn puncture marks !  |
29-12-2006, 05:22 PM
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Agree with Magnesium sulphate, or soak in a bath with Epsom salts, (same thing I think!) Tetanus shot if they're very deep?
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29-12-2006, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by badgerwatcher Agree with Magnesium sulphate, or soak in a bath with Epsom salts, (same thing I think!) Tetanus shot if they're very deep? | how many people have a tetanus booster? i was thinking i should get one a while ago but some theories are that once you're vaccinated it stays in your system for life. I had one at school.
Thorns..ouch, doggy had one right through his ear the other day.
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29-12-2006, 05:50 PM
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You should keep up to-date with tetanus especially if you are gardening etc |
29-12-2006, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by honeybee how many people have a tetanus booster? i was thinking i should get one a while ago but some theories are that once you're vaccinated it stays in your system for life. I had one at school.
Thorns..ouch, doggy had one right through his ear the other day. | Up to date with the tetanus. Will I go mouldy now?
Just knelt down-whilst bathing one of my bunnies and shot back up again as I've got one in my knee too! Must have pushed it in further! Ugh. Woe is me
I smell of TCP too.
Can't get to the elsewhere one.My poor other half will have to help me out 
That's what you get for doing a good deed. I feel like a dartboard.
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29-12-2006, 05:58 PM
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Ha ha ha im not laughing really....sorry julie ha ha
Funny? i can still reach all parts of my rear? ...say no more! |
29-12-2006, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Wild-Woman Up to date with the tetanus. Will I go mouldy now?
Just knelt down-whilst bathing one of my bunnies and shot back up again as I've got one in my knee too! Must have pushed it in further! Ugh. Woe is me
I smell of TCP too.
Can't get to the elsewhere one.My poor other half will have to help me out
That's what you get for doing a good deed. I feel like a dartboard. | Hmm, i best book myself in at the doctors! Spend half my life covered in mud.
Pretty nasty if you contract it...lock jaw. Is a rise in TB at the mo too.
P.S We feel the pain with you Julie.
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29-12-2006, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by honeybee how many people have a tetanus booster? i was thinking i should get one a while ago but some theories are that once you're vaccinated it stays in your system for life. I had one at school.
Thorns..ouch, doggy had one right through his ear the other day. | Tetanus you should have a booster every 5-8 years,especially if you get punctured on a regular basis
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29-12-2006, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by nightshade Tetanus you should have a booster every 5-8 years,especially if you get punctured on a regular basis | I think that if you get punctured on a regular basis then you probably don't need tetanus up-dates but that's not professional medical advice and there's no point in suing me if you get lockjaw. Indeed, if you get lockjaw, you probably wouldn't be able to sue me, just smile in a grim manner! 
There are lots of other infections that you can get seriously from any cut or abrasion, particularly the necrotyzing Streptococcus that has killed recently. So if you get festering infections which spread rapidly then get yourself to medical attention immediately!
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29-12-2006, 08:14 PM
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at what point did lock jaw enter this thread im really confused as i cant find it? |
29-12-2006, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan Salter at what point did lock jaw enter this thread im really confused as i cant find it? | I don't think that I magicked it up ... lockjaw is the vernacular term for tetanus. Derives from the fact that the jaw (and other bones) are gripped into place by muscular spasm. Sufferers are then said to have risus sardonicus
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29-12-2006, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul mabbott I don't think that I magicked it up ... lockjaw is the vernacular term for tetanus. Derives from the fact that the jaw (and other bones) are gripped into place by muscular spasm. Sufferers are then said to have risus sardonicus
- a sardonic grin, as well as the title of an LP by UB40! | Don't you just love Paul
You make me feel so much better 
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29-12-2006, 08:29 PM
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(Bustling in with a duster) - 'Oh, yes, yes, yes! One must have tetanus boosters regularly. And your BCG (TB) only lasts 40 years apparently. May not be a worry to most of you yet, but ah, well, never mind!'
Bustles out again, tutting!
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29-12-2006, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul mabbott I don't think that I magicked it up ... lockjaw is the vernacular term for tetanus. Derives from the fact that the jaw (and other bones) are gripped into place by muscular spasm. Sufferers are then said to have risus sardonicus
- a sardonic grin, as well as the title of an LP by UB40! | my understanding is that after the childhood injection you need one ever ten years to give protection from lockjaw upto a maximum of 6 jabs , after 6 you are supoosedly immune.
i'm not an expert either but i know a girl whos a practice nurse and thats what she tells me
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29-12-2006, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul mabbott I don't think that I magicked it up ... lockjaw is the vernacular term for tetanus. Derives from the fact that the jaw (and other bones) are gripped into place by muscular spasm. Sufferers are then said to have risus sardonicus
- a sardonic grin, as well as the title of an LP by UB40! |
ahh see? im too young to have known that fact...i guess anyone over a cetain age who may have bought that album by ub40 would have known what you were on about? ( always hated them myself except red red wine)
Where as my useless fact is that i know the melting point of rock is at "7800 degrees farenheit " ( Bon Jovi second album mid eighties) |
29-12-2006, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan Salter Where as my useless fact is that i know the melting point of rock is at "7800 degrees farenheit " ( Bon Jovi second album mid eighties) | more useless info is that the book farenheit 451 is so called because thats the burning point of paper
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29-12-2006, 08:44 PM
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mmm ... actually I first heard it from my eldest son! But I always liked UB40 ... could live without Bon Jovi though ..... Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Salter ahh see? im too young to have known that fact...i guess anyone over a cetain age who may have bought that album by ub40 would have known what you were on about? ( always hated them myself except red red wine)
Where as my useless fact is that i know the melting point of rock is at "7800 degrees farenheit " ( Bon Jovi second album mid eighties) | | |
