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21-12-2006, 09:52 AM
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| | | Learn a new language for Christmas! If you find yourselves with nothing to do, after a few drinks on Christmas evening, how about learning to speak Badger! Badger Vocal Communication
You never know when an extra language may come in handy! 
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21-12-2006, 10:25 AM
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| | | Re: Learn a new language for Christmas! I might just give it a try. It can't be harder than Japanese, which I'm really struggling to learn at present.  | 
21-12-2006, 10:48 AM
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| | | Re: Learn a new language for Christmas! There are similarities in the vowel sounds.
Also, Smartie, this would then qualify you to interprete for Japanese Badgers, which would probably offer a very high salery, as there can't be many people out there... 
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21-12-2006, 06:06 PM
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| | | Re: Learn a new language for Christmas! I can't understand why you are not all rushing to this site! Is it just me? Have you all got lives, or what? 
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22-12-2006, 07:10 AM
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| | | Re: Learn a new language for Christmas! Quote:
Originally Posted by badgerwatcher There are similarities in the vowel sounds.
Also, Smartie, this would then qualify you to interprete for Japanese Badgers, which would probably offer a very high salery, as there can't be many people out there...  | Good thinking! I could use some help paying for the holiday. Do you know where I can get a Japanese/ Badger dictionary?  | 
22-12-2006, 08:39 AM
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| | | Re: Learn a new language for Christmas! LOL  I'll ask the Badgers, Smartie! 
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22-12-2006, 09:03 AM
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| | | Re: Learn a new language for Christmas! Just call me Dr Doolittle 
Being serious for a mo - Animal communication is a great interest of mine. Thanks for the link  | 
23-12-2006, 12:12 AM
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| | | Re: Learn a new language for Christmas! Oh, yes, I am being serious, Owl-light. I will be practising those calls. I love talking to creatures and have them reply. I currently speak a smattering of cat, and a little coloquial curlew!  And of course telepathy is handy with the dog! 
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23-12-2006, 12:21 AM
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| | | Re: Learn a new language for Christmas! Quote:
Originally Posted by badgerwatcher If you find yourselves with nothing to do, after a few drinks on Christmas evening, how about learning to speak Badger! | When I was stationed in Blandford Forum I frequently spoke Badger. Though in my defence, this may have been due to the copious amounts of the local brew consumed. 
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23-12-2006, 09:22 AM
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| | | Re: Learn a new language for Christmas! I think alcohol is a definite pre-requisite, Tormentil, to achieve those gutteral vowel sounds! I shall be on the Badger Beer, along with my Badgers! I think they have Welsh connections. I can hear them singing beautifullyas they mine under the summer house. Some of the harmonies are fantastic! 
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24-12-2006, 08:20 AM
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| | | Re: Learn a new language for Christmas! Quote:
Originally Posted by badgerwatcher Oh, yes, I am being serious, Owl-light. I will be practising those calls. I love talking to creatures and have them reply. I currently speak a smattering of cat, and a little coloquial curlew!  And of course telepathy is handy with the dog!  | I was only joking about the Dr Doolittle bit
Curlew? Interesting I wouldn't know where to start there.
I'm reasonably fluent in Cat, but each cat has it's own range of individual vocalisations which you have to listen to and tune into first. It's a delight when they immediately echo a sound you know they make sometimes and make to them. Sometimes I manage to recognise certain signs and second guess what they're about to say and they seem to love that. I have long conversations with my lot. Don't always know what we're saying to each other but we are communicating and reinforcing the bonds between us all the same. They clearly get as much out of it as I do
A lot of animal communication is in body language so you need to be able to read that too even if you can't exactly reproduce it. But with a cat even the polite 'no threat' blink is something even people who live with cats often fail to understand. Rituals and etiquette are very important to felines. I guess that's why some people think of them of cold and aloof. From a cats point of view, you can only try to communicate with someone for so long before finding their lack of acknowledgement really rather rude and give up on them.
My problem is, spending so much time with cats, when I meet a dog I tend to offer them the 'no threat' blink too. The blank look in their big brown eyes makes me remember oops, wrong species
I'd be interested to know more about Badger body language. If you can tell me anything about it I'd appreciate it  | 
24-12-2006, 10:19 AM
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| | | Re: Learn a new language for Christmas! Quote:
Originally Posted by Owl-Light I was only joking about the Dr Doolittle bit
Curlew? Interesting I wouldn't know where to start there.
I'm reasonably fluent in Cat, but each cat has it's own range of individual vocalisations which you have to listen to and tune into first. It's a delight when they immediately echo a sound you know they make sometimes and make to them. Sometimes I manage to recognise certain signs and second guess what they're about to say and they seem to love that. I have long conversations with my lot. Don't always know what we're saying to each other but we are communicating and reinforcing the bonds between us all the same. They clearly get as much out of it as I do
A lot of animal communication is in body language so you need to be able to read that too even if you can't exactly reproduce it. But with a cat even the polite 'no threat' blink is something even people who live with cats often fail to understand. Rituals and etiquette are very important to felines. I guess that's why some people think of them of cold and aloof. From a cats point of view, you can only try to communicate with someone for so long before finding their lack of acknowledgement really rather rude and give up on them.
My problem is, spending so much time with cats, when I meet a dog I tend to offer them the 'no threat' blink too. The blank look in their big brown eyes makes me remember oops, wrong species
I'd be interested to know more about Badger body language. If you can tell me anything about it I'd appreciate it  | Sheryl, While reading ths I had a wonderful picture of a cat rubbing the top of it's head against your face and purring.Why do they do that butting thing with the top of the back of their heads?
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24-12-2006, 10:55 AM
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| | | Re: Learn a new language for Christmas! Quote:
Originally Posted by Garden Carpet Sheryl, While reading ths I had a wonderful picture of a cat rubbing the top of it's head against your face and purring.Why do they do that butting thing with the top of the back of their heads?
jaki | There are scent glands along the side of their cheeks and usually one of those 'snudges' - as we call them at home - start, with cheek contact. In that respect its probably a case of sharing identity by giving you their personal scent and trying to receive yours. Some cats do like to offer a considerable head butt greeting with the top of their heads too though don't they? That does make me laugh. I can be quite a klonk! I just read it as their equivalent to a hug  | 
24-12-2006, 02:33 PM
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| | | Re: Learn a new language for Christmas! Quote:
Originally Posted by Owl-Light There are scent glands along the side of their cheeks and usually one of those 'snudges' - as we call them at home - start, with cheek contact. In that respect its probably a case of sharing identity by giving you their personal scent and trying to receive yours. Some cats do like to offer a considerable head butt greeting with the top of their heads too though don't they? That does make me laugh. I can be quite a klonk! I just read it as their equivalent to a hug  | I love cats but find that if they rub my face I itch for hours afterwards.. as I understand it it is a reaction to something in their saliva which is used while grooming. It is such a shame cos a cat cuddle is something special.
I have a dog that comes to me and drops her head on my chest so that the top of her head meets my chin.. and she huffs while we do cuddles.. it is so sweet.
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25-12-2006, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Garden Carpet I love cats but find that if they rub my face I itch for hours afterwards.. as I understand it it is a reaction to something in their saliva which is used while grooming. It is such a shame cos a cat cuddle is something special.
I have a dog that comes to me and drops her head on my chest so that the top of her head meets my chin.. and she huffs while we do cuddles.. it is so sweet.
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25-12-2006, 09:47 AM
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| | | Re: Learn a new language for Christmas! Badgers are truly remarkably talented not only in their vocal communication but also in dance http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/badger.swf
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25-12-2006, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by jonny.go.go | No where have I seen that before???? the magic mushroom song i think. neat dancing by those Badgers 
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26-12-2006, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by jonny.go.go | Arf!  | 
26-12-2006, 04:51 PM
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| | | Re: Learn a new language for Christmas! Oh, yes, I love the Badger dance. I've seen in before in my search for all things Badger.
And I love cats, but terribly allergic to them, unfortunately. But chat to them whenever I meet them, as I learned to speak cat years ago, pre-allergy, when I shared my home with five fabulous felines, and had a very strong relationship with the mother of the other four.
I love trying to copy bird or animal noises, especially when they respond, and am longing for the warmer weather, when I can begin to communicate with my Badgers. 
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26-12-2006, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by badgerwatcher Oh, yes, I love the Badger dance. I've seen in before in my search for all things Badger.
And I love cats, but terribly allergic to them, unfortunately. But chat to them whenever I meet them, as I learned to speak cat years ago, pre-allergy, when I shared my home with five fabulous felines, and had a very strong relationship with the mother of the other four.
I love trying to copy bird or animal noises, especially when they respond, and am longing for the warmer weather, when I can begin to communicate with my Badgers.  | I have often 'talked' with a blackbird or two.. but am a bit wary .. for all I know s/he might be saying 'be off with you, you interloper' or words to that effect. Then I wouldnt have the pleasure of their song on summer evenings... pure liquid gold some nights.. come to think of it.. i didnt hear them this summer  
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26-12-2006, 10:57 PM
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| | | Re: Learn a new language for Christmas! That is my worry with the Badger noises, of course, particularly as most of the language is either agressive of 'romantic'! I could find myself in some tricky situations hanging around in the garden at night! 
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29-12-2006, 09:42 AM
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| | | Re: Learn a new language for Christmas! You'll just have to observe carefully, experiment a little, watch for reactions and be to ready to leg it just in case!  | 
29-12-2006, 12:23 PM
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| | | Re: Learn a new language for Christmas! Too late, Owl-Light! I'm now engaged to Boerwolf, King of the Badgers! 
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