Perceptions, Opinions & Reactions

[Garden Carpet]

Originally Posted by Paul mabbott

Exactly so - easier to learn the Latin than use a mnemonic! Two tricky things though: why "sub" coccinella (coccinella is the original Latin for ladybird, still used in French coccinelle). Also 'vingitiquattuor' (24) is mispelled - the Romans and most of Europe used/use vigintiquatuor while British authorities use the double 't' - none of it helps does it?

wow.. didnt know i could read latin

[Beryl]

For the Colours of the rainbow I think Richard Of York Gave Battle In Vain
Not sure about the spelling of vain, vane or vein . Some time is imprvise and write vaine

[Garden Carpet]

thats the one Beryl.. i wonder if remembering that vain is the one in the mirror being vain.. vane is the one with North East.. and vein is the one the put the needle IN
jaki

[Beryl]

I would never remember all thet.

[Airehead]

Originally Posted by Dorcas

Sorry but the word weak in brackets came across as a put down to me and was uncalled for.

And spelling is not what this site is about - I thought we were ALL on here cos we ALL liked what's outside the front door.

however we spell it, whatever accent we use and whatever camera we use etc

Well there you go. I never would have imagined that anyone would take this seriously. On this site it is, as you rightly say, of little consequence. Since that is your opinion, as it is mine, why worry about it?

It does illustrate, as I thought it might but hoped it would not, how easily a "joke" comment can go astray.

[John]

Originally Posted by Airehead

Well there you go. I never would have imagined that anyone would take this seriously. On this site it is, as you rightly say, of little consequence. Since that is your opinion, as it is mine, why worry about it?

It does illustrate, as I thought it might but hoped it would not, how easily a "joke" comment can go astray.

Sorry Airhead, if you meant it as a joke put a smiley after it. You know very well that without it a statement can be taken both ways. Don't come the innocent, you know exactly what reaction you were after.

John

[Susie]

Well, whatever the intention it certainly sparked an interesting discussion about dyslexia.

[speckled wood]

Originally Posted by John

Sorry Airhead, if you meant it as a joke put a smiley after it. You know very well that without it a statement can be taken both ways. Don't come the innocent, you know exactly what reaction you were after.

John

Does this mean that we have to use smileys and other icons in every message on WAB? As far as I can see the use of smileys is an option, I write lots of letters to people and send email messages and don't use smileys. Regardless of whether or not there is smiley there anything that people write can get taken anyway that these person who reads that message chooses.

[Beryl]

I think you know where a smiley on the wab would be needed.

[John]

Originally Posted by speckled wood

Does this mean that we have to use smileys and other icons in every message on WAB? As far as I can see the use of smileys is an option, I write lots of letters to people and send email messages and don't use smileys. Regardless of whether or not there is smiley there anything that people write can get taken anyway that these person who reads that message chooses.

The written word can be conveyed in many ways but on the internet there is an understanding that if a saying or meaning is mentioned that is said tongue in cheek then it is a recognised fact that a smiley defines which way it is meant to be taken.

Ordinary sentences that convey exactly what you mean doesn't need that. Airheads statement could be taken as meant or a joke. It isn't hard to put a smiley after it defining that it is meant to be a joke.

You are not newcomers to the world of forums and internet chat. You know exactly what I mean without dissecting it.

If you are making a statement like Airhead did it isn't rocket science to make sure which way it is to be taken.

As far as I am concerned I have said my peace. It is obvious exactly what I mean. If anyone tries to imply anything else then as far as I am concerned they are being awkward for awkward sake.

John

[Boddie]

Originally Posted by John

The written word can be conveyed in many ways but on the internet there is an understanding that if a saying or meaning is mentioned that is said tongue in cheek then it is a recognised fact that a smiley defines which way it is meant to be taken.

Ordinary sentences that convey exactly what you mean doesn't need that. Airheads statement could be taken as meant or a joke. It isn't hard to put a smiley after it defining that it is meant to be a joke.

You are not newcomers to the world of forums and internet chat. You know exactly what I mean without dissecting it.

If you are making a statement like Airhead did it isn't rocket science to make sure which way it is to be taken.

As far as I am concerned I have said my peace. It is obvious exactly what I mean. If anyone tries to imply anything else then as far as I am concerned they are being awkward for awkward sake.

John

No they're not

[Susie]

Ooooh yes they are





P.S. It's behind you!

[John]

Originally Posted by Boddie

No they're not

Originally Posted by Susie

Ooooh yes they are





P.S. It's behind you!

[Airehead]

Now someone is offended because I didn't use a Smiley. Well, you certainly can't please everyone. Apparently there are more ways to offend unintentionally than - well I was going to say "than there are ways to skin a squirrel" but that would be naughty,wouldn't it?

if Smilies did their job, this thread might never have got going. John, you might have an understanding about them but I don't.

Has the point still not been taken that it is easy to offend unintentionally and to take offence unrealistically? Let's go to bed until spring. I have come to the conclusion that winter is the silly season here.

[Boddie]

Originally Posted by Airehead

All right, now you have all made your (weak) excuses, would someone explain to me how it comes about that latin names on this site are always (I think) spelled correctly?

From what I read of the post you stated that people had given excuses, and then further qualified that statement by promoting, through the use of brackets, that the excuses were, infact, weak. Is this not the case?

Besides, surely it should be 'spelt correctly' as opposed to 'spelled correctly'

[Tormentil]

Originally Posted by Boddie

Besides, surely it should be spelt correctly as opposed to spelled correctly

One can use either spelt or spelled.

BTW, spelt is also a kind of wheat.

(just incase anyone takes this post the wrong way) lol

[Boddie]

Originally Posted by Tormentil

One can use either spelt or spelled.

BTW, spelt is also a kind of wheat.

(just incase anyone takes this post the wrong way) lol

I do like the word spelt, and was unaware of this other meaning.

Thanks

[Tormentil]

More info on spelt .

[smartie]

Spelt flour does make very good bread, but as this link says needs to be mixed with white flour if you are going to use it successfully in a bread maker. A little bit of rye four in the mix is also good, IMO.

ps: a spellchecker is all very well but, if you care about these things, won't tell you when you have used "there" instead of "their" or similar. Can't say it matters a hoot to me on a forum like this - at least not in anyone else's posts. I'm sad enough to fiddle with mine to the extent that I just corrected a split infinitive. As if anybody else cared

[Garden Carpet]

Why oh why cant we assume that all posts on the treehouse are taken gently. Why must we assume that something said in a post is meant to be offensive,angry or hurtfull. Why can we not take it that it is meant in the kindest of ways. Please?
jaki

[Gill Catton]

Originally Posted by Garden Carpet

Why oh why cant we assume that all posts on the treehouse are taken gently. Why must we assume that something said in a post is meant to be offensive,angry or hurtfull. Why can we not take it that it is meant in the kindest of ways. Please?
jaki

I have lost count of the number of times that thought has gone through my mind on WAB (and other forums too)!!!

[John]

Originally Posted by Garden Carpet

Why oh why cant we assume that all posts on the treehouse are taken gently. Why must we assume that something said in a post is meant to be offensive,angry or hurtfull. Why can we not take it that it is meant in the kindest of ways. Please?
jaki

Hi Jaki

I fully appreciate what you say but we have to look at the bigger picture here. It's not just us adults that are reading these forums but youngsters as well. I think Stuart would like this to go into schools as well. Because of this we, as a forum members, bare the added responsibility of how we present ourselves. What you can get away with on other forums will not necessarily be tolerated on this.

This is a total family forum and there is no place for comments like Airheads, unless it is made plain that it is tongue in cheek (which he didn't).

Anybody can see that what he wrote was badly worded without that smiley. I can see no apology forthcoming so to me he meant what he said. If not he should be big enough to at least state that he now recognises that it could have been worded better - don't you think?

John

[Garden Carpet]

Originally Posted by John

Hi Jaki

I fully appreciate what you say but we have to look at the bigger picture here. It's not just us adults that are reading these forums but youngsters as well. I think Stuart would like this to go into schools as well. Because of this we, as a forum members, bare the added responsibility of how we present ourselves. What you can get away with on other forums will not necessarily be tolerated on this.

This is a total family forum and there is no place for comments like Airheads, unless it is made plain that it is tongue in cheek (which he didn't).

Anybody can see that what he wrote was badly worded without that smiley. I can see no apology forthcoming so to me he meant what he said. If not he should be big enough to at least state that he now recognises that it could have been worded better - don't you think?

John

Hi John, I think that Airehead didnt mean any offence with his comment, at least not the way I read it. Perhaps it is time to allow the subject to drop and move on. If there is any doubt.. give the benefit of the doubt is what I say As you say this is a family forum and perhaps we should consider that threads such as this are being read by our young people and if they read all the angry responses we could say that is as bad as the perceived wrong in the first place

jaki giving off peaceful vibes
jaki