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09-12-2006, 07:13 PM
|  | Frozen | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Leeds West Yorkshire
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Originally Posted by Paul mabbott It's usually the other way around - musicians tend to be good at maths although useless at other sciences ....
And vice versa, many great mathematicians and physicists (just a variety of maths) have been major classical musicologists although I don't recall many being virtuoso players. Einstein was quite nifty on the fiddle but I suppose he had other things to think about .... | I think you are right - yes and I'm sure I'm going to get into trouble now - I met a few maths people who were very good technically .......and I'm sure some were very good artistically but on balance...... | 
09-12-2006, 07:42 PM
| | Active Member | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Exmouth Devon
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| | | Re: Perceptions, Opinions & Reactions I used to play a guitae, harmonica and nock up a beat on the drums. I can't read music Mussical note and punctuation are just hyrogliffics to me  ( where is the spell checker)
I taught my son to play guitar. He has given up IT now and is a musition and and editor.
I do Read books have read many, some times though, I have to read a parragraph 6 times befor eI understand what it's about and I some times have to go back to find ourt what I'm reading about. But I can take things apart and put them back together again and I always work out how things work because manuals are another language  | 
09-12-2006, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Beryl I used to play a guitae, harmonica and nock up a beat on the drums. I can't read music Mussical note and punctuation are just hyrogliffics to me  ( where is the spell checker)
I taught my son to play guitar. He has given up IT now and is a musition and and editor.
I do Read books have read many, some times though, I have to read a parragraph 6 times befor eI understand what it's about and I some times have to go back to find ourt what I'm reading about. But I can take things apart and put them back together again and I always work out how things work because manuals are another language  | I always admire people who play by ear and a few years ago decided to remedy this.
I got a tin whistle and started memorising tunes. Firstly by music books but after about a year was able to start learning tunes from ear and cds and certainly think it helped. Although I have nothing to hide behind now ie a music stand.  | 
09-12-2006, 08:49 PM
|  | Knight Commander of the Wild Empire | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: N.E.SOMERSET
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| | | Re: Perceptions, Opinions & Reactions I used to playby ear but people kept closing the keyboard lid on my head
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09-12-2006, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by nightshade I used to playby ear but people kept closing the keyboard lid on my head |  .......It's evident from your posts  | 
09-12-2006, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by nightshade I used to playby ear but people kept closing the keyboard lid on my head | LOL  | 
09-12-2006, 09:41 PM
|  | Commander of the Wild Empire | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: East Kent
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| | | Re: Perceptions, Opinions & Reactions I play penny whistle too, Dorcas, in an Irish folk band, and Bodhran, (Irish drum), but that is definitely a different part of the brain.
I can read well enough, although I have to force myself to read in order, left to right, but when I'm writing, or typing, the letters get scrambled in my head, so I have to concentrate on what order I put them down. I can't listen to music while I'm writing, my partner can't understand why I work in silence.
And I'm very left handed. The right side of my body just stops me falling over, no use otherwise! Lol
And not very useful for practical stuff. Always felt useless until I became a writer, now I am justified in being creative, instead of having to feel guilty that I can't do the other stuff!  | 
09-12-2006, 10:46 PM
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| | | Re: Perceptions, Opinions & Reactions All right, now you have all made your (weak) excuses, would someone explain to me how it comes about that latin names on this site are always (I think) spelled correctly? | 
09-12-2006, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Airehead All right, now you have all made your (weak) excuses, would someone explain to me how it comes about that latin names on this site are always (I think) spelled correctly? | Cos if you are sensible you go to the gallery and copy and paste it like what I do  Oh and dyslexia is NOT a weak excuse my brother is dyslexic and has often rung me up to spell something sometimes a simple word he cannot read it from a dictionary as with dyslexics some letters look completely the wrong way round for a dyslexic especially if their brain is left side dominated! | 
09-12-2006, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Airehead All right, now you have all made your (weak) excuses, would someone explain to me how it comes about that latin names on this site are always (I think) spelled correctly? | I don't think latin uses similar sounding worrd so there would be no confusibles | 
10-12-2006, 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by cherrybee Cos if you are sensible you go to the gallery and copy and paste it like what I do  Oh and dyslexia is NOT a weak excuse my brother is dyslexic and has often rung me up to spell something sometimes a simple word he cannot read it from a dictionary as with dyslexics some letters look completely the wrong way round for a dyslexic especially if their brain is left side dominated! | I'm left orientade and left eye dominant had to take photos when left eye dominant because cameras are made for right handed peeps with right eye dominance
I was trained (bullied) to write with my right hand as an infant , most other things are easier to do with my left | 
10-12-2006, 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Airehead All right, now you have all made your (weak) excuses, would someone explain to me how it comes about that latin names on this site are always (I think) spelled correctly? | Because the Gallery Editors check and correct the errors!!
Many members don't even bother to put the Scientific Name on uploads, we have to find and correct them. | 
10-12-2006, 01:05 AM
|  | Commander of the Wild Empire | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: East Kent
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| | | Re: Perceptions, Opinions & Reactions We're not making excuses, Airehead. At least, I'm not. I'm just stating the case. I don't feel the need to excuse something I have no control over.  | 
10-12-2006, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Airehead All right, now you have all made your (weak) excuses, would someone explain to me how it comes about that latin names on this site are always (I think) spelled correctly? | Because you have not put any smilies alongside this reply I take it that you mean what you say. If it was meant as a joke then please put a smiley after it.
If it was meant then it is indefensible in my opinion that someone, in this day and age, can come out with a comment about weak excuses like you have. I know people that have dyslexia that are amongst some very brainy people but there is an element in their brain that doesn't function like you or I.
Personally, if it were me, I would like an apology for that statement because I think it is bang out of order.
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10-12-2006, 10:03 AM
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| | | Re: Perceptions, Opinions & Reactions Thanks John
Dyslexic people are visual, multi-dimensional thinkers. We are intuitive and highly creative, and excel at hands-on learning. Because we think in pictures, it is sometimes hard for us to understand letters, and written words
We can learn to read, write and study efficiently when we use methods geared to our unique learning style.
So please don't underestimate us.  Go and have a look at my web site Airehead you may see some thing there you would not expect from some one who ca't always distinguish left from right and is hopless ayt reading andwriting.  | 
10-12-2006, 10:44 AM
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10-12-2006, 10:46 AM
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| | | Re: Perceptions, Opinions & Reactions Airehead has simply made a comment and and explanations have been given, the bracketed "weak" to me indicate a "tongue in cheek" comment as far as I know there is no logical reason for him to put a "smiley" or to receive a vitriolic response for not doing so.
I for example am autistic "spectrum" and many things that come naturally to others do not come naturally to me and often I need to have things explained to me that others would not need to have explained to them as a result I am often misunderstood I try my best but my best is not always enough, and it is very upsetting for example when as a result of my problem (that I try to do my best to deal with) I get a privmail threatening me with ejection from the group.
Dyslexia can be distressing and I make allowances for it, I just wish that people would make allowances for me, and for other people who might have other conditions. | 
10-12-2006, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by John Personally, if it were me, I would like an apology for that statement because I think it is bang out of order.
John | Oh lordy, here we go again.
It takes all sorts of make a world. Let's give Airehead the benefit of the doubt.
Personally I blame it all on the invention of the dictionary, spelling was fluid until then.
Beryl raised something I hadn't thought of before, eye-ed-ness (however that is spelt  ). I always use my left eye when taken photos and had never considered using my right. I'm going to try using my right next time and see if the photos are better or worse.
I am right handed for writing and I'm rubbish at maths. One of my daughters is left handed, had real trouble learning to read (she's got the hang of it now) but appears to be exceptionally gifted at maths and science.
I am also midly dispraxic, but basically that just means that I am a clumsy idiot. lmao
Ain't life fascinating?! 
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10-12-2006, 10:56 AM
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| | | Re: Perceptions, Opinions & Reactions Errrrrrr. Did you miss the bit where Airehead said: Quote All right,now you have all made your (weak) excuses. Unquote.
That is an inexscusable comment | 
10-12-2006, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Beryl Errrrrrr. Did you miss the bit where Airehead said: Quote All right,now you have all made your (weak) excuses. Unquote.
That is an inexscusable comment | It's excuseable if we don't take it to heart and give him the benefit of the doubt.  It is our choice whether we get offended or not.
Life's too short to stress about the small stuff.
However, if he did mean it in a negative and not jokey way and he was criticising people for a disability that they can do nothing about then his opinion isn't worth diddly squat to anyone other than himself and again it isn't worth getting bothered about. 
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10-12-2006, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Susie It's excuseable if we don't take it to heart and give him the benefit of the doubt.  It is our choice whether we get offended or not. | Airhead has made a direct statement which actually attacks those that have given reasons (not excuses) for why they are like they are. If he is is as intelligent as he thinks he is then he knows that if it is a jokey response then a smiley follows.
The written word is the hardest thing to use when you are trying to say something. You can write a sentence, give it to a dozen people, and I bet it will have been read in at least two or three different ways. This is one of the reasons smileys were invented for internet chat. Quote:
Originally Posted by Susie Life's too short to stress about the small stuff. | I agree to a point Susie but, for me personally, I can't stand by and let a statement go by like Airheads. I have had my say and as far as I am concerned it is the end of it. However if Airhead wants to put his point of view then so be it.
To not say anything when you know something is wrong is apathy. I am not an apathetic person as I say what I feel when I think there is something wrong. Quote:
Originally Posted by Susie However, if he did mean it in a negative and not jokey way and he was criticising people for a disability that they can do nothing about then his opinion isn't worth diddly squat to anyone other than himself and again it isn't worth getting bothered about.  | A lot of people can let it go. A lot of people can't but won't say anything and let it fester. I tend to make my point on behalf of those that are attacked. That gives those that have been attacked a platform with which to air their views (which Beryl has done).
You will note that I do not suffer from Dyslexia or any other form of problem that inhibits my flow of words or thread content so why should I defend those that do. Because they are in the minority and throw away remarks like Airheads are not necessary. A little thought before composing such a message (which was thoughtless to say the least) would go a long way to eradicating this sort of ignorance (because that is what it is).
John | 
10-12-2006, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Dorcas left handed - no backward b or ds but very good at writing backwards and it was easier to learn the piano |
One thing that always fascinated me was that the ancient Greeks would use boustrophedon - first line would go left to right but at the end of the line they would continue writing right to left and so on. There's a certain logic to it? Apparently it's found in other old languages: Omniglot index by writing direction | 
10-12-2006, 12:50 PM
|  | Commander of the Wild Empire | | Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: West Sussex
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| | | Re: Perceptions, Opinions & Reactions That is all very true, John, you make some very valid points. Quote:
Originally Posted by John
To not say anything when you know something is wrong is apathy. I am not an apathetic person as I say what I feel when I think there is something wrong.
John | Good for you.  I respect people who fight for what they believe is right.
I am not an apathetic person either. The term apathy implies laziness or the fact that you can't be bothered to say something and that isn't the case in this instance, I just chose to approach this in a different way to you. 
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