fireworks

[badgerwatcher]

Sue, I felt so much the same last night, so helpless, and saw my one early Badger come snuffling around the house, with dread for what was to come, and then it started! Every b****y firework known to man, with amplifyers! The sky lit up with violent flashes, my poor old dog stuck to my heels, and no Badgers or foxes until well after midnight. And expecting the same tonight. Sometimes I feel I come from a different planet, I get so angry. Then around 1a.m. a tiny Badger baby, so vulnerable, to cheer me up, but also make me feel even more protective and angry at the people who want to make so much noise.

[Paul mabbott]

Oh dear,
Yes, the biggest reason that we left London was to avoid the new roads being built for Essex boy racers! And, yes, there are lots of good old rock'n'roll clubs about - theboardwalklive.co.uk - for instance.
Oddly, we haven't had it so bad this year: a few organised flare-ups at Diwali, very little last night and some big but central dos tonight. Prhaps someone's been reding this thread and taking notice? Or perhaps all hell will break lose tomorrow?
Keep taking the tablets ....

[quote=SueR............every big boys toy going so long as it annoys everyone around)You don't know these people? oh come to sunny Essex theres loads!................
.Not for me i can go out and dance the night away at a rock and roll club(yes they still exsist!) and other than the odd distant boom over the top of the music i wont know a thing.[/QUOTE]

[carlj]

And to end the Fireworks discussion, this little gem from the beeb
BBC NEWS | England | Wear | Backside firework prank backfires

Should be compulsory?

[Fritillary]

I have a very sad souvenir of fireworks. In a market in Mexico, the 31st december 2002, there were stands with fireworks and there was a lot of people buying things to the new year eve.
Unfortunately a fire in a place produced several explosions. Result: around 30 deaths and dissapeared. It is just what a tragic accident can do.

Here every year there are accidents and deaths, but nobody see the danger. Maybe they are expecting some great tragedy happen to do something.

And for say this year Ascot as been very noisy with fireworks. But I see the cause: The race course was renewed this year and since they want to recupear all the money, they do whatever to have people paying by tickets. So without thinking the people living around, they showed fireworks these days.

The problem with this is that people is becoming used to.

[Fritillary]

I have a very sad souvenir of fireworks. In a market in Mexico, the 31st december 2002, there were stands with fireworks and there was a lot of people buying things to the new year eve.
Unfortunately a fire in a place example about what they can do.

Here every year there are accidents and deaths, but nobody see the danger. Maybe they are expecting some great tragedy happen to do something.

This year Ascot has been very noisy with fireworks. But I see the cause: The race course was renewed this year and since they want to recupear all the money, they do whatever to have people paying by tickets. So without thinking the people living around, they showed fireworks these days.

The problem with this is that people is becoming used to.

[nightshade]

I ended up with over a dozen spent rockets in my garden after a display at the local school

[speckled wood]

Fireworks are still going off every night here, Monday and Tuesday night might as well have been the 5th November, I expect at least another week of it

[badgerwatcher]

Same here, Speckled Wood. I was sitting outside my backdoor, dressed in black, holding my breath, with a Badger eating peanuts on the step about a couple of yards away. Now the fireworks have sent him scurrying off again. I'll have to wait about three hours before I see any Badgers now.

[RogerTheCat]

The shops here are selling the remaining stock of cheap. More fireworks post 5 Novemeber than in the run up

[eeyore]

for all the "it wasnt like this in my day" stuff kids messing with bangers etc is not a new problem. I was "reading braver men walk away" by peter gurney (its about bomb disposal) and he tells stories from when he was a boy in nether avon in the 30s including breaking open bullets to use the cordite to make fire crackers, removing the safety fuses from motar bombs and setting them off (these are army kids ) and the time that he and his gang recovered a 35kg electrically ignited rocket from the army ranges and use it to blast a farmers bicycle into the sky !

more recently (early 80s) a freind of mine built a potato motar and used it to blast the headmasters greenhouse to pieces from the saftey of a nearby hillside

kids have always been attracted to things that catch fire and go bang, the only difference is now that they are doing it in the streets rather than out in the woods.

[honeybee]

Originally Posted by eeyore

for all the "it wasnt like this in my day" stuff kids messing with bangers etc is not a new problem. I was "reading braver men walk away" by peter gurney (its about bomb disposal) and he tells stories from when he was a boy in nether avon in the 30s including breaking open bullets to use the cordite to make fire crackers, removing the safety fuses from motar bombs and setting them off (these are army kids ) and the time that he and his gang recovered a 35kg electrically ignited rocket from the army ranges and use it to blast a farmers bicycle into the sky !

more recently (early 80s) a freind of mine built a potato motar and used it to blast the headmasters greenhouse to pieces from the saftey of a nearby hillside

kids have always been attracted to things that catch fire and go bang, the only difference is now that they are doing it in the streets rather than out in the woods.

This is true, my mum remembers messing around with friends and a jumping jack getting caught in the hood of her coat when she was a kid in the 60's.

[nightshade]

We had anothe spate of firework displays last night and this morning there were still fireworks being let off!!

[badgerwatcher]

Well, they're still going off tonight! Surely they must get boring after a while?

[Dogownerpaul]

Originally Posted by honeybee

Just wondering what peoples opinions on fireworks are? While I was in the countryside I only ever heard them on bonfire night or new years. In the town loud bangs have been going off over the past month or so and it gets me really angry. I don't care if I sound like a killjoy, the amount of animals scared and injured by them, not to mention people. I think we should only have organised displays at special times.
I also think there should be stricter limits on bonfires, although ofcourse nobody has time to enforce the law. There was a massive one in somebody's garden the other evening and you could hardly see or breathe along a long stretch of road.

I agree that fireworks have got totally out of hand. My dog has been terrified for weeks and I have had to sit up at night with her. She has been so scared she has lost control of her bowels at times. The bangs go on until 2 or 3 am. Other pet owners have had to get tranquilisers for their animals. The new regulations are unenforceable and I feel strongly that the sale of fireworks to the public must be banned and only licensed authorities should be allowed to use them at specific times.Please please write to your MPs and ministers to impress on them the seriousness of this nuisance.

[eeyore]

Originally Posted by Dogownerpaul

I feel strongly that the sale of fireworks to the public must be banned and only licensed authorities should be allowed to use them at specific times.Please please write to your MPs and ministers to impress on them the seriousness of this nuisance.

the trouble with this is that the people who are letting them off in the street are already breaking the law , and are often purchasing them illegally too (if they are underage fotr example) thus banning them will just lead to a larger black market and possibly less stringent safety checks

such a measure would only work if accompained by more , and more rigourous, enforcement and this being the case we might as well just enforce the laws that we already have.

[honeybee]

We therefore need a non-violent vigilante group to round up these scumbags, I'd pay them for a bit of piece and quiet and judging by letters pages in local newspapers other people probably would too. There must be a gap in the market.

As for the poor dog (I really sympathise) I do recommend the pheramone plugs and maybe some mild sedatives from the vet but your poor pet shouldn't have to go through that and you shouldn't have to pick up the tab but there we go.

[Paul mabbott]

Thought you'd like this cartoon from the Sheffield Telegraph the other week:

[honeybee]

Brilliant Paul, that sums it up, only difference, terrorists are probably more intelligent.

[Fritillary]

Originally Posted by eeyore

the trouble with this is that the people who are letting them off in the street are already breaking the law , and are often purchasing them illegally too (if they are underage fotr example) ...

But it is not always the case, besides if people just stay passively suffering what they dislike, this will encourage to have more fireworks (and whatever else).

For example in Ascot, the race course (rebuilt this year) made the other day a mega fireworks. I have been living there by 3 years and this is the first time I hear too many noise and even the air had a heavy smog that smelled the fireworks. And they did it legally and people around protested so I hope that this will be useful to reduce the noise and pollution.

I dont think that everybody that fire a firework at home bought it illegally. Not all of them are teenagers, sometimes it is the own parents that buy fireworks to bring fun to their children or just to themselves. I have seen that around where I am living. So it is very probable that own parents are giving fireworks to their teenager children.

[badgerwatcher]

My parents, who both died last year, kept up, for the last few years of their lives, a correspondance with the Queen, or presumeably her ladies in waiting or secretaries, as they wrote and appealed to her as a dog lover to do something about it. I found the file after my father's death. Don't you think the powers that be just humour people by replying and sympathising, but only change things when it suits their purposes to do so?

[honeybee]

Originally Posted by badgerwatcher

My parents, who both died last year, kept up, for the last few years of their lives, a correspondance with the Queen, or presumeably her ladies in waiting or secretaries, as they wrote and appealed to her as a dog lover to do something about it. I found the file after my father's death. Don't you think the powers that be just humour people by replying and sympathising, but only change things when it suits their purposes to do so?

I think however powerful somebody is they can't always change things. I know Blunkett wanted firework laws changed due to his dog. The problem is fireworks generate a lot of money, people aren't keen on stopping that flowing in.

[RobSutton]

Ironic to see the nature of the Google Ads at the bottom of this thread:

The last time I looked:

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[nightshade]

I have seen none of the local owls since the fireworks started,and still cannot understand why I must be subjected to these huge ear-splitting Bangs that pass for a display nowdays

[honeybee]

Heard interesting thing today from my partner's mother who rehabilitates young scoundrels. Have always wondered why kids set off bangers in the day, apparentely small scale drug dealers let them off to let people know there are more drugs available.

[honeybee]

Ok, this thread's nearly a year old but just thought I'd revive it after my experience las night when my family and I came close to being injured by a firework thrown down the road by yobs. We literally had to jump out of the way as it screamed towards us horizontally and exploded by our heads. We could easily have been blinded or burnt or worse.