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20-10-2006, 09:22 PM
|  | Knight Commander of the Wild Empire | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Sheffield, FPRSY
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I'll need to look back through my Greek mythology to see if they had one of those. What would its behaviour be? And who would have the front end? Quote: |
Originally Posted by eeyore more like half donkey  | |
20-10-2006, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul mabbott Where's the sadness come from? Or the 'mixed blood'? We're all humans with mixed *cultures* - surely only neo-Nazis believe in "bloodlines"? As agriculturists know, it's the 'hybrid vigour' that produces the best crops! Wouldn't it be boring if we were all tall, blond Norwegians (another stereotype, I know)? | Here we go again. Lighten up Paul, don't be so serious, I'm not.
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20-10-2006, 09:37 PM
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When people start using such language then bloodshed can follow. Sorry, can't "lighten up" when people start using the language of genocide. It was probably a group of people talking lightly in some bierkeller that formed the Nazi Party ....
I'm not suggesting that this is your thinking but we need to be very careful ....... Quote: |
Originally Posted by Earth Hart Here we go again. Lighten up Paul, don't be so serious, I'm not. | |
20-10-2006, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul mabbott When people start using such language then bloodshed can follow. Sorry, can't "lighten up" when people start using the language of genocide. It was probably a group of people talking lightly in some bierkeller that formed the Nazi Party ....
I'm not suggesting that this is your thinking but we need to be very careful ....... | Who's using the language of genocide?
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20-10-2006, 09:42 PM
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We need to eradicate this intollerance and violence from society - I suggest we start by killing all the intollerant and violent people we can find 
I think you will find it more likely that genocidal regimes start when people lose their sense of humour and start taking everything rather to seriously
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20-10-2006, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Earth Hart Who's using the language of genocide? | ~~~~~ I see myself as british/saxon, mixed blood. Sadly that's what happens to a conquered people.
I've heard the same language from Serbs/Croats, Tamils/Sinhalese, Kurds/Arabs, Sunnis/Shiites ..... |
20-10-2006, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy Warne I'd be very interested to read it Earth Hart, if you wouldn't mind.
Cheers,
Andy | It's in a box in one of my cupboards, if I can find it I'll post it. It's 14 A4 pages long. At the time a friend typed it out for me, from my hand written notes & draft.
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20-10-2006, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by eeyore We need to eradicate this intollerance and violence from society - I suggest we start by killing all the intollerant and violent people we can find
I think you will find it more likely that genocidal regimes start when people lose their sense of humour and start taking everything rather to seriously | Hooray As I said to Paul, he should lighten up. Nice one eeyore.
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20-10-2006, 09:49 PM
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looking forward to a cupboard in the mail! Quote: |
Originally Posted by Earth Hart It's in a box in one of my cupboards, if I can find it I'll post it. ......................... | |
20-10-2006, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Earth Hart It's in a box in one of my cupboards, if I can find it I'll post it. It's 14 A4 pages long. At the time a friend typed it out for me, from my hand written notes & draft. | Oh don't trouble yourself then if it isn't to hand, I was just interested, religion is my favourite subject. |
20-10-2006, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul mabbott looking forward to a cupboard in the mail! | Hey!!! Like it.
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20-10-2006, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy Warne Oh don't trouble yourself then if it isn't to hand, I was just interested, religion is my favourite subject. | It aint mine.
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20-10-2006, 09:58 PM
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Right, give me the address and I'll dig out the guns.
Okay, I take your (and EH's) point *but* I think that there are ways in which lethal opinions become accepted. Read the 'Daily Mail'! Clearly Hitler came to power and achieved what he did because his public became to believe various pseudo-scientific "facts". In the present global atmosphere of irrational fundamentalism we should be wary of making jokes that will be taken seriously.
Yours, seriously, Paul
First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out - because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the communists
and I did not speak out - because I was not a communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out - because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me -
and by then there was no one left to speak out for me.
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Originally Posted by eeyore We need to eradicate this intollerance and violence from society - I suggest we start by killing all the intollerant and violent people we can find
I think you will find it more likely that genocidal regimes start when people lose their sense of humour and start taking everything rather to seriously | |
20-10-2006, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by eeyore more like half donkey | Silly ass
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20-10-2006, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul mabbott Right, give me the address and I'll dig out the guns.
Okay, I take your (and EH's) point *but* I think that there are ways in which lethal opinions become accepted. Read the 'Daily Mail'! Clearly Hitler came to power and achieved what he did because his public became to believe various pseudo-scientific "facts". In the present global atmosphere of irrational fundamentalism we should be wary of making jokes that will be taken seriously.
Yours, seriously, Paul
First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out - because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the communists
and I did not speak out - because I was not a communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out - because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me -
and by then there was no one left to speak out for me.
Pastor Martin Niemöller | I take your point up to a point , although it is interesting to note the neimoller originally supported hitler before he came to power, and was initially held up as a hero of the father land by the nazi press due to his naval service in big mistake number 1 the ability to laugh in the worst situations is the mark of a healthy well balanced mind - FDR
Yours humourously Pete
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20-10-2006, 10:41 PM
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You may have proved my point there ...
Sure, have a good weekend all! Quote: |
Originally Posted by eeyore I take your point up to a point , although it is interesting to note the neimoller originally supported hitler before he came to power, and was initially held up as a hero of the father land by the nazi press due to his naval service in big mistake number 1
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20-10-2006, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Garden Carpet Que???? I know nothing... It wern't me guv.. 'onest... him Speckled Wood.. me garden carpet
jaki | Oops sorry hun, this thread has been going on for so long and got so far off my innocent little poem that its got me all confused. Thought it didn't sound like you.  |
20-10-2006, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Boddie Not for the first time have 'new members' from Devon had to jump to Chunky's defence. Are you sure you are not related? Paul, you complain of being patronised and I too find it odd that folk are patronising. Patronising this thread that is. You are in a very dark place my friend and should take your discharge elsewhere.
Try here Grumpier Old Men, the web site for Grumpy Old Men | Such a warm welcome Boddie. Thankyou. Glad to see that differing opinions are valued so much in this discussion. |
20-10-2006, 11:40 PM
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Don't mention it. You are welcome |
20-10-2006, 11:43 PM
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I know this thread has gone off on a tangent a few times but what I like most about AOL is that you can have up to 7 user names |
21-10-2006, 12:05 AM
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I wrote the original poem to celebrate a connection with the land that we call home. The land as in the earth beneath your feet. Intended if anything to bring people together in that sentiment. It was entitled the Spirit of England because thats where I am and what I feel. I was born right here but could as easily have been the Spirit of Scotland or Wales.
The Scots and the Welsh are proud of where they come from and rightly so. Each part of Great Britian - and I for one believe it is Great - is unique in its own way and thats the beauty of it. Like the difference between the Woods and the Coastline. Diversity as I've already said is not something to be feared or tiptoed around but something to be acknowledged and celebrated. It's a gift to be shared with eachother, not a weapon to use against eachother. Why fear celebrating the qualities that make England unique?
I find it strange that we can understand the value of biodiversity so well and yet have such trouble with cultural diversity in our country.
Stuart was quite right to split this thread. In writing the poem, politics was the furthest thing from my mind and from the sentiments of its theme too but I've tried to answer questions posed to me rationally anyway. If people want to get into that kind of discussion it does belong in a different thread, if nothing other than the fact that it has nothing whatsoever to do with the poem.
And lets not forget that this site is Wild about Britian in the sense of Wildlife and Nature not Politics. I'm not saying members shouldn't have such discussions but is this really the place for them? And there I'll leave it I think.
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21-10-2006, 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Boddie I know this thread has gone off on a tangent a few times but what I like most about AOL is that you can have up to 7 user names | The real challenge is remembering just who you are at the time. |
21-10-2006, 01:04 AM
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Hi Lucyc and a very warm welcome to WAB from another Devonion hope this thread hasnt put you off .What part of Devon are you from i am from Exmouth born and bred |
21-10-2006, 09:05 AM
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I wouldn't worry cherrybee, I don't think Lucyc is all that new and seems to already know "chunky" quite well. I knew his/her Spec Would show some similarities with another member.
It may be worth reminding members that multiple login names are against the rules and could even lead to sin bin/banning. 
Seeing as though I'm already in semi-seriousness mode, please don't make this thread too Heavy. We're happy to keep it running at the moment, but we are still a wildlife and environment site and the treehouse is only really for 'light-hearted' off-topic topics.
Thanks
Stu |
21-10-2006, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by StuartDH I wouldn't worry cherrybee, I don't think Lucyc is all that new and seems to already know "chunky" quite well. I knew his/her Spec Would show some similarities with another member.
It may be worth reminding members that multiple login names are against the rules and could even lead to sin bin/banning.
Seeing as though I'm already in semi-seriousness mode, please don't make this thread too Heavy. We're happy to keep it running at the moment, but we are still a wildlife and environment site and the treehouse is only really for 'light-hearted' off-topic topics.
Thanks
Stu | Stuart, there is innuendo and lightly veiled accussations from you and Boddie that I am using different names on this site. I can tell you I am not!!
LucyC is my daughter, I recommended the site to her in glowing terms, I told her the members were knowledgeable and very friendly. I have also recommended the site to my son, brother, brother in law, and his bird ringing group.
I love this site and respect the people that use it, I have a bit of fun sometimes as do other members.
What I could not understand was Boddies attitude, he wasn't part of the debate and joined the thread late when the discussions were coming to an amiable conclusion.
His very first post was offensive and directed at me, when my daughter naturally replied later on in the evening he was sarcastic towards her.
Perhaps you should be asking him what his problems and issues are.
The thread was a lively debate where the main participants put their opposing points of view across in a controlled and intelligent manner. It all finished in good humour and I, for one, enjoyed it.
I therefore can't understand why you and Boddie seem to have a problem with me??
One last thing, can you tell me if private messages are private, or can they be accessed by you or anybody else? | |
