Crop circles

[ogwen]

I've been wondering who it is that does the crop circles. I dont buy the fact that its aliens , but if it is just an ordinary human how do they get them to look so perfect? And how come they dont leave any marks they were there like crushed crops when they've walked away.......

Maybe it is aliens after all

[Earth Hart]

Originally Posted by ogwen

I've been wondering who it is that does the crop circles. I dont buy the fact that its aliens , but if it is just an ordinary human how do they get them to look so perfect? And how come they dont leave any marks they were there like crushed crops when they've walked away.......

Maybe it is aliens after all

I've been involved with the Crop Circle Symposium, in Glastonbury, since '91 & left in '04.
All I can say is that there are a number of agencies at work, some of them human .

Here are 3 sites worth a vist: The Crop Circle Connector
Crop Circle Research: The World's Leading Crop Circles Research Site - Introduction and Welcome
Temporary Temples - Homepage

Enjoy

[Lance Morgan]

Originally Posted by ogwen

I've been wondering who it is that does the crop circles. I dont buy the fact that its aliens , but if it is just an ordinary human how do they get them to look so perfect? And how come they dont leave any marks they were there like crushed crops when they've walked away.......

Maybe it is aliens after all

Of course its aliens. When their space ship lands it leaves marks in the crop and this is what can be seen from the air. The flux capicitor or whatever engine they use creates strange highly accurate symetrical markings also. Everyone knows that

[lewisa]

This is my favourite crop circle, as seen on Google Earth just south of the M4 nr Reading....

[ogwen]

Ah ha, thanks for that Earth Hart. Really interesting. Abit worrying, only some are human

Hi Lance, of course it must be aliens with their spaceships. Each spaceship must have its own distinctive crop circle

Ha, hi lewisa. I was just thinking it looked like that sign for happy eater. Maybe the aliens wanted food

[May]

I like to think it's manic wildlife tearing about fields and flattening the crops

[eeyore]

Originally Posted by ogwen

I've been wondering who it is that does the crop circles. I dont buy the fact that its aliens , but if it is just an ordinary human how do they get them to look so perfect? And how come they dont leave any marks they were there like crushed crops when they've walked away.......

Maybe it is aliens after all

generally the makers walk in along the tractor wheel lines - which nearly always intersect with the crop circle thus not leaving a trace, they then use a plank on two bits of rope to squash the crop down to create the patern - if they want a perfect circle or curve they bang a post in and use another bit of rope as a giant compass.

[ogwen]

Originally Posted by eeyore

generally the makers walk in along the tractor wheel lines - which nearly always intersect with the crop circle thus not leaving a trace, they then use a plank on two bits of rope to squash the crop down to create the patern - if they want a perfect circle or curve they bang a post in and use another bit of rope as a giant compass.

Oh right thanks for that . Some of the patterns are pretty complex though. Probably they would have worked it out before they went?

Its a lot of trouble for something that would disapear though isnt it.

[eeyore]

Originally Posted by ogwen

Oh right thanks for that . Some of the patterns are pretty complex though. Probably they would have worked it out before they went?

Its a lot of trouble for something that would disapear though isnt it.

For some people its art I guess - i mean you could say that about an ephemeral artwork

I also have a suspicion that some of these are done with the conivance of the landowner , and thus possibly in daylight over several days for publicity purposes

[May]

Originally Posted by eeyore

generally the makers walk in along the tractor wheel lines - which nearly always intersect with the crop circle thus not leaving a trace, they then use a plank on two bits of rope to squash the crop down to create the patern - if they want a perfect circle or curve they bang a post in and use another bit of rope as a giant compass.

Oooh, don't let Reg Presley hear you say that!

[littleT]

Originally Posted by eeyore

generally the makers walk in along the tractor wheel lines - which nearly always intersect with the crop circle thus not leaving a trace, they then use a plank on two bits of rope to squash the crop down to create the patern - if they want a perfect circle or curve they bang a post in and use another bit of rope as a giant compass.

I was going to say this yesterday.
Had seen it being done on 'Biggest Hoaxs of our time'.
But then thought that I'd leave it so that alien enthusiasts could have a bit of fun first.

Don;t listen to them - IT IS ALIENS

[ogwen]

Originally Posted by littleT

I was going to say this yesterday.
Had seen it being done on 'Biggest Hoaxs of our time'.
But then thought that I'd leave it so that alien enthusiasts could have a bit of fun first.

Don;t listen to them - IT IS ALIENS

Hehe. I believe you
Oh by the way does anyone know how long people have been creating these crop circles? Is it just a recent thing?

[littleT]

Oh, no don't believe me.
Arguments Against the Hoax Theory of Crop Circles
be skeptical of the selective skeptics.
You'll know what I'm talking about if you have read the link.

The UnMuseum - Crop Circles
For the southern english countryside it looks as if crop circles were appearing 20 years ago. But I think longer.

[Earth Hart]

Crop circles have been appearing since crops were first planted. In Medieval times they were called "Devil's Circles"

A few years ago, a friend, Busty Taylor, was flying to Thruxton, as he flew over Stonehenge he took some photos, it was 5pm. Landing at Thruxton, he picked up two business men to take them to Exeter. They flew back over Stonehenge, & in the field on the opposite side of the A303 was a very large formation containing 187 circles in the form of a triple Julia set(a fractal design). No way in the 25mins 5.25pm, could anyone have made it, even the military were interested in it. There have also been formations in restricted areas over the past 20 yrs.

And they don't just appear in corn. In Canada, near Saskatoon, trees were twisted over an area of 2 hectres, a bush pilot took the pics & said that the shock of seeing it nearly made him crash. The trees were in a beautiful spiral. Now, all you guys out there try & twist A tree let alone a few hundred.

As I have said in a previous post here, there are many agencies at work, some of them human but don't forget the Earth. She has Her own energy.

Investigations have shown that in some cases the sugar molicules have been changed, in others great pressure has been used. Where humans are involved, the crop rearly grows back as the crop is so badly damaged. We can now show the ones that are made by humans because of that damage.

Research is now being done on the nodes, as changes have been noticed in the molecular structure. Who knows where this will lead, I don't.

[ogwen]

Originally Posted by Earth Hart

Crop circles have been appearing since crops were first planted. In Medieval times they were called "Devil's Circles"

A few years ago, a friend, Busty Taylor, was flying to Thruxton, as he flew over Stonehenge he took some photos, it was 5pm. Landing at Thruxton, he picked up two business men to take them to Exeter. They flew back over Stonehenge, & in the field on the opposite side of the A303 was a very large formation containing 187 circles in the form of a triple Julia set(a fractal design). No way in the 25mins 5.25pm, could anyone have made it, even the military were interested in it. There have also been formations in restricted areas over the past 20 yrs.

And they don't just appear in corn. In Canada, near Saskatoon, trees were twisted over an area of 2 hectres, a bush pilot took the pics & said that the shock of seeing it nearly made him crash. The trees were in a beautiful spiral. Now, all you guys out there try & twist A tree let alone a few hundred.

As I have said in a previous post here, there are many agencies at work, some of them human but don't forget the Earth. She has Her own energy.

Investigations have shown that in some cases the sugar molicules have been changed, in others great pressure has been used. Where humans are involved, the crop rearly grows back as the crop is so badly damaged. We can now show the ones that are made by humans because of that damage.

Research is now being done on the nodes, as changes have been noticed in the molecular structure. Who knows where this will lead, I don't.

So if its not humans then who is it? How can it be the earth creating them?

[littleT]

Bower and Choley were the Hoaxers that I'd seen on the Hoax programme

Carl Sagan - Crop Circles

There are so many different views on the subject.
So google Crop Circles and decide for yourselves.

[ogwen]

Originally Posted by littleT

Bower and Choley were the Hoaxers that I'd seen on the Hoax programme

Carl Sagan - Crop Circles

There are so many different views on the subject.
So google Crop Circles and decide for yourselves.

I think that would be best. Thanks for those links by the way

[Earth Hart]

Originally Posted by littleT

Bower and Choley were the Hoaxers that I'd seen on the Hoax programme

Carl Sagan - Crop Circles

There are so many different views on the subject.
So google Crop Circles and decide for yourselves.

Yes, they said they did them all with a pencil, a piece of string & a baseball hat They were payed by the Daily Mail, two ex-cons, their court records have disappeared from Winchester Crown Court in 1992. The press officer who put their story forward was a retired Major, who had a devious record.

Even today, the military are still doing their own research into how the formations are formed.
I have personally seen a small sliver grey ball of light move through a formation, then shoot up into the air so fast that we couldn't track it, it was filmed at the time & sent to the BBC. We know from someone in the H of Ls that the film was sent to Farnborough for analysis.

[littleT]

I got better results for googling 'Crop Cirle Pictures'
¤ c i r c l e m a k e r s ¤
was just one of many groups that claim they 'hoax'.
I am so glad this thread was started up as I am learning so much about what I thought as a child was Aliens, have untill today thought were 'hoax'. and now I'm thinking some hoax-some not - I'm confused.

One thing I'd like to think though is that it would be a shame if there isn't something out there, it would be an awful waste of space.

Maybe it's a group of Badgers gathering together making pretty patterns in the fields trying to confuse us. Animals are more intelligent than given credit for. hehehe

[Earth Hart]

Originally Posted by littleT

I got better results for googling 'Crop Cirle Pictures'
¤ c i r c l e m a k e r s ¤
was just one of many groups that claim they 'hoax'.
I am so glad this thread was started up as I am learning so much about what I thought as a child was Aliens, have untill today thought were 'hoax'. and now I'm thinking some hoax-some not - I'm confused.

One thing I'd like to think though is that it would be a shame if there isn't something out there, it would be an awful waste of space.

Maybe it's a group of Badgers gathering together making pretty patterns in the fields trying to confuse us. Animals are more intelligent than given credit for. hehehe

Check out Temporary Temples - Homepage to see if you think they are all done by humans at night. Yes it gets confusing but it's good that mystery is still out there.

[eeyore]

If they are not done by humans it is a bit of a coincidence that every one of the pics on the temporay temples homepage is intersected by tractor tracks -

of course maybe the alien craft guide on these tracks using electromagnetic impulse or something

[Earth Hart]

Originally Posted by eeyore

If they are not done by humans it is a bit of a coincidence that every one of the pics on the temporay temples homepage is intersected by tractor tracks -

of course maybe the alien craft guide on these tracks using electromagnetic impulse or something

All formations are intersected, but that doesn't mean humans have created them. Look at the Triple Julia, it appeared in broard daylight, between 5-5.25pm next to the A303. There is photographic record of the site before & after, timed & dated by Busty Taylor. You would need an army of people to creat it in that time & in full view of Stonehenge. Sorry eeyore but somethings can't be explained. And I'm not saying it's aliens.

[DL]

Originally Posted by ogwen

So if its not humans then who is it? How can it be the earth creating them?

Some of the simple circular/oval ones can be caused by twisters touching down.

Also there is a fungus that can weaken the base of some crops that can develop in a similar way to fairy circles when the crop falls you can get a sort of domino effect that leaves a roughly circular flattened area.

[Duke of York]

Originally Posted by littleT

I am so glad this thread was started up as I am learning so much about what I thought as a child was Aliens, have untill today thought were 'hoax'. and now I'm thinking some hoax-some not - I'm confused.

I wouldn't start getting confused as nobody is going to convince me that these crop circles are anything other than 'man made' or possibly freakish weather.

Although the thought that aliens, intelligent to travel many light years to reach earth, could think of nothing better than making patterns in corn fields once here is slightly amusing