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29-08-2006, 07:08 PM
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This trolley has been in the harbour of Oban in Scotland for, one would imagine, some time now. The name of the supermarket it came from is clearly displayed on the handle bar, yet nobody from the supermarket has taken the trouble to remove it. What poor PR. I understand from the chap that runs seal tours that people bring them down to the boats, fill their boats then do one, leaving yobs to tip them in but you would think that in the spirit of good PR the supermarket would get shot of it |
29-08-2006, 07:09 PM
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Would I be right in thinking that the super market in question rhymes with Alfresco ?
This is a very common problem , and one that i see all the time ,
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29-08-2006, 07:10 PM
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Boddie
That would make an excellent truck to carry your lens and camera in! 
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29-08-2006, 07:14 PM
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No it does not rhyme with alfresco, it rhymes with fiddle
Supermarkets bake food inhouse with the expressed intention that the aroma provokes people to buy more food
I can only imagine that my local LIDL wishes to provoke its shoppers to buy more toilet roll |
29-08-2006, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Boddie No it does not rhyme with alfresco, it rhymes with fiddle
Supermarkets bake food inhouse with the expressed intention that the aroma provokes people to buy more food
I can only imagine that my local LIDL wishes to provoke its shoppers to buy more toilet roll | Its a German trolley then!
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29-08-2006, 07:16 PM
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Yes, but Oban has a LIDL |
29-08-2006, 07:26 PM
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I once read on a countryside managers (CMA) forum that it is uneconomic for the super markets to retreive and clean their trolleys as it is cheaper to but new ! how ridiculous is that  With this in mind a favoured method is to retrieve them and leave them in a nasty minging heap in the supermarket carpark , right in front of their doors if poss - This is not flytipping (although I was once accused of this by a supermarket manager) as the trolleys are theirs and you are simply being a good citizen in returning their property.
In derbyshire (ashby to be precise) we once went a step further and took 16 nastly slimy trolleys - recoved from a pond - into a local super market and left them at customer services with a note saying "these are yours, we dont want em " LMAO
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29-08-2006, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Boddie This trolley has been in the harbour of Oban in Scotland for, one would imagine, some time now. The name of the supermarket it came from is clearly displayed on the handle bar, yet nobody from the supermarket has taken the trouble to remove it. What poor PR. I understand from the chap that runs seal tours that people bring them down to the boats, fill their boats then do one, leaving yobs to tip them in but you would think that in the spirit of good PR the supermarket would get shot of it | We have those in every park pond ,river,brook and streem.
They tend to bread very quicikly.
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29-08-2006, 09:58 PM
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Two ways for this. One, the supermarket's attempt to keep their trolleys on site (hell a new trolley for a pound? I'll take 2!). Two, my guess is it's not the supermarket staff that wheel them to the nearest watercourse. So who is responsible?
Add to this, how do we stop the universal dumping of containers from fast food restaurants that rhyme with Fatronalds, Kurger Bing and Benducky Tried Thicken? |
29-08-2006, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by carlj Two ways for this. One, the supermarket's attempt to keep their trolleys on site (hell a new trolley for a pound? I'll take 2!). Two, my guess is it's not the supermarket staff that wheel them to the nearest watercourse. So who is responsible? | At the end of the day they are the supermarkets property so they are legally their responsibility regardless of who throws them in the watercourse . In the same way that if I nick your car and dump it in the local park it will still be down to you (or your insurance company at least) to recover it
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29-08-2006, 10:14 PM
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Ironic when the supermarkets are pushing their "organic" ranges (wonder how long before we get "carbon neutral" foods too!). How's about we take photos of offending items, and post them on the shop boards with locations, to encourage retrieval? |
29-08-2006, 10:20 PM
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Thats why I took this photo and others with LIDL clearly displayed. It is on its way to the local paper |
29-08-2006, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by eeyore I once read on a countryside managers (CMA) forum that it is uneconomic for the super markets to retreive and clean their trolleys as it is cheaper to but new ! how ridiculous is that With this in mind a favoured method is to retrieve them and leave them in a nasty minging heap in the supermarket carpark , right in front of their doors if poss - This is not flytipping (although I was once accused of this by a supermarket manager) as the trolleys are theirs and you are simply being a good citizen in returning their property.
In derbyshire (ashby to be precise) we once went a step further and took 16 nastly slimy trolleys - recoved from a pond - into a local super market and left them at customer services with a note saying "these are yours, we dont want em " LMAO | Yes, we've done this too, on more than one occasion. Not actually into the shop yet though - I'll bear that in mind for next time. |
29-08-2006, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by carlj Add to this, how do we stop the universal dumping of containers from fast food restaurants that rhyme with Fatronalds, Kurger Bing and Benducky Tried Thicken? | eventually this problem will solve itself cos those who live on a diet of unlucky fried kitten will die young and thus the gene for eating junk will become recessive - will this happen before they have buried us under a carpet of nonbiodegrable litter - probably not.
the answer is the same as the trolleys , the litter belongs to them so take it back to them, ad stack it outside their doors , they'll soon get the message.
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30-08-2006, 05:19 AM
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By the side of the Thames at low tide the other day, I counted over 40 trolleys. The yobs seem to take great pleasure in busting them out of their trolley holding area, wheeling them out of the business carpark and launching them over the sea (river) wall. Three things-
1)- It's scary to think that there are actually people walking around without ANY grey matter whatsoever.
2)-Why on earth aren't the trolleys put in some sort of container over-night?
3)- Why don't the local council impose a littering fine on each trolley found. Say £20 a trolley. Mmm times the 40 or so I saw-£800 bill every now and then might make them take a bit more care.
By the way-this one is a DIY store that rhymes with thee and you.
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30-08-2006, 07:43 AM
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While I agree it would be nice to name and shame the supermarkets, I also have some small sympathy with them.
It’s also going to be the same here that a few head bangers will dictate for the rest of us.
I can only think of a few solutions
1 All trolleys to be locked away every night
2 Employ more security staff so they would be able to patrol the car park area and stop people taking shopping home in the trolley, The cost of this would be an increase in prices, meaning we pay the price for these nutters again.
3 install more cameras and print the pictures of these offenders in local paper to shame them, also make them pay for recovery plus a fine, might even be possible to ban them from the shop in future.
Mick
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30-08-2006, 07:43 AM
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I spoke with a someone that recovers shopping trolleys for
the supermarkets,they said that there are people that
regularly take a trolley home laden with groceries up to
a mile away then abandon them(the trolley not the groceries)
local kids then play with them and the distance increases
until they end up (they like the splash)in a water course
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30-08-2006, 07:55 AM
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Going back to Boddie's original post, apart from the serious eco implications this is indeed very bad PR for the supermarkets themselves. Some trolleys don't end up in rivers or harbours, but are dumped undamaged a few streets away, and yet they are still not reclaimed by their owners.
Whatever the cost, I do feel that the trolleys should be retrieved - local councils and volunteers spend a lot of time and money beautifying their streets to attract visitors and nothing is more likely to put them off than litter, either in the streets or elsewhere.
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30-08-2006, 09:24 AM
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I wonder if the supermarkets offered to sell shopping trollies very cheaply to those who do have to walk some distance to the shop whether it might create a greater feeling of ownership and the trollies might be better taken care of by those who walk them home - maybe offer a reward evertime they are re-used by such people. I mean if I live a mile or two from a supermarket and didn't have my own transport I too would probably take the trolly home and probably wouldn't take it back I'd probably adopt it..... esp if there was an incentive to do so |
30-08-2006, 09:46 AM
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whilst we are in this mood, i am vv anti supermarket, running a local and organic food store gives me everyright i think . anyway found this i am trying to get more info... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/...nd/4997534.stm
BBC NEWS | Scotland | South of Scotland | Bats could halt supermarket giant |
30-08-2006, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by eeyore I once read on a countryside managers (CMA) forum that it is uneconomic for the super markets to retreive and clean their trolleys as it is cheaper to but new ! how ridiculous is that With this in mind a favoured method is to retrieve them and leave them in a nasty minging heap in the supermarket carpark , right in front of their doors if poss - This is not flytipping (although I was once accused of this by a supermarket manager) as the trolleys are theirs and you are simply being a good citizen in returning their property.
In derbyshire (ashby to be precise) we once went a step further and took 16 nastly slimy trolleys - recoved from a pond - into a local super market and left them at customer services with a note saying "these are yours, we dont want em " LMAO | Thats pure class eeyore !! ha ha...Hats off to you  |
30-08-2006, 05:54 PM
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Reminds me of the genius work of Bristols' Grafitti artist Banksy |
30-08-2006, 06:09 PM
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many of the bigger stores have a recovery number on the trolleys that in theory you can ring and they will recover them but in practice do they ? do they ooooooooooo !
did some research into this and found that the recovery folk had been instructed only to recover nice clean pristine trolleys , not nasty dirty ones from brooks , ponds , and streams etc another PR initiative that is as much use as a chocolate fireguard then
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30-08-2006, 06:20 PM
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I blame the government. But then that other lot weren't any good either. |
01-09-2006, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by carlj Add to this, how do we stop the universal dumping of containers from fast food restaurants that rhyme with Fatronalds, Kurger Bing and Benducky Tried Thicken? | There are two large chicken takeaways at the end of my road (not unlucky fried kitten but small businesses). Since the people who frequent them seem to think it is OK to sit in their oversized cars and throw the packaging and bones out of the window I have come to the conclusion that there are two things to be done:
1. Tax the oooooooo off of fast food takeaways. Offer serious tax breaks if they employ street cleaning teams for a wide area around the takeaways who clean everything, not just their employers ooooo. [But don't let them off a tax for selling unhealthy junk to people. Tax them to death anyway]
2. Those poor people have dropped the packaging and bones they have just purchased. I expect they have not noticed and they will be eternally grateful if you give them back to them. Pop them on the passenger seat of there car and you will even save them the effort of taking them back off you.  | | |
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