Go Back   Wildlife and Environment Forums > Wild About Britain. > The Treehouse

Notices

View Poll Results: Which comes first

Photography 8 33.33%
Observing 7 29.17%
Both equal 9 37.50%
Voters: 24. You may not vote on this poll

Reply

 

LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 20-08-2006, 01:34 AM
DaiTheDragon's Avatar
Officer of the Wild Empire
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Llanelli, Carms, S.Wales
Posts: 986
observing, photographing or both equal.

I was just wondering, with regards to your particular interest, which comes first, observing, photographing or both equal.
For me its photography although I have to observe to be able to photograph but I don't often go out with just my binoculars just to observe.

Dai
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 20-08-2006, 05:11 AM
Wild Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 219
Re: observing, photographing or both equal.

Hello Dai, it used to be observation was the most important aspect for me as i needed to remember as much detail for recording purposes. Now i often try for a photo as quickly as i can and work it out later at my leisure.

I think a bit of both is the best as photos do not recall jizz to well, but can be very useful for plumage etc.

For insects a photo is definitely required by myself as i am not to well versed in ID skills here.

regards brian.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 20-08-2006, 06:20 AM
digi's Avatar
Commander of the Wild Empire
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 2,614
Re: observing, photographing or both equal.

To be able to get a good photograph observing and staying in one place for some time is essential for me.

Digi
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 20-08-2006, 07:56 AM
Bushcraft's Avatar
Officer of the Wild Empire
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 587
Send a message via Yahoo to Bushcraft
Re: observing, photographing or both equal.

Quote:
Originally Posted by DaiTheDragon
I was just wondering, with regards to your particular interest, which comes first, observing, photographing or both equal.
For me its photography although I have to observe to be able to photograph but I don't often go out with just my binoculars just to observe.

Dai
Hi,

Observing is most important IMO, this is the best way to learn. Taking pics is great fun but you can and do miss a lot of the subject when setting the camera up and going for that perfect shot, etc. I often go out without my camera and lenses but when I leave these at home I will always see more, no its not just luck but its because im actually looking for different things. Just my opinion but I think many birders and wildlife spotters in general will agree.

Best wishes
Kris
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 20-08-2006, 08:55 AM
nightshade's Avatar
Knight Commander of the Wild Empire
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: N.E.SOMERSET
Posts: 6,449
Re: observing, photographing or both equal.

I just get caught up in the magic of the moment,the camera is quite often forgotten
__________________
You cannot maintain an ecology, if you lose any of the pieces.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 20-08-2006, 09:00 AM
glsammy's Avatar
Knight Grand Cross of the Wild Empire
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Nottingham
Posts: 11,463
Send a message via Skype™ to glsammy
Re: observing, photographing or both equal.

Photography for me, I hardly ever go to just view. If I did, I could guarantee to see something I would have dearly loved to capture.
__________________
Graham

My WAB Gallery.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 20-08-2006, 09:43 AM
Ollie's Avatar
Knight Commander of the Wild Empire
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: North Lincolnshire
Posts: 6,479
Re: observing, photographing or both equal.

For me it's photography. I spent many years just observing with binoculars and telescope and like to think that during those years I learnt a lot about wildlife in general. However, since aquiring a camera and lens capable of catching those special moments my priorities have changed more to the photography aspect, although I do agree that capturing those moments still does require one to stand still and observe quite a lot.
Roger
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 20-08-2006, 09:47 AM
rlchew's Avatar
Commander of the Wild Empire
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Laindon, Basildon, Essex.
Posts: 2,420
Re: observing, photographing or both equal.

For me .... both equal.

From when I was a young kid to fairly recently, observation (birds and mammals) was my main interest.

However, last year I bought a DSLR which opened up the world of photography and developing my 2 websites. In addition, photography has created an interest in other wildlife, particularly butterflies, dragonflies and damselflies.

So now I would say both equal .... but the combination of binoculars, telescope, tripod, camera and lens is somewhat heavy and cumbersome so sometimes for the benefit of my back and limbs I make a choice as to whether it is an "observation day" or a "photography day" . Today is neither as it is grey and drizzly and I have other things to do .

Richard
__________________
www.richardchewphotography.com
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 20-08-2006, 10:27 AM
Active Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Exmouth Devon
Posts: 3,039
Re: observing, photographing or both equal.

For me it's both really.
If I know there are birds around I will stand for ages just observing movement until I get my shot, som times I don't get it, but just watching birds is really great as they do much more than just hop from branch to twig, thay play and swing. I like the entertainment as well as the photography and mallard ducks provide such good entertainment, often make me laugh out loud
__________________
Believe half of what you see
Believe nothing of what you hear
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 20-08-2006, 10:48 AM
Owl-Light's Avatar
Officer of the Wild Empire
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Gloucestershire
Posts: 688
Re: observing, photographing or both equal.

Hi Dai

Both equal for me. Looking for a shot involves active observation anyway and often seeing the results reveals a great deal more than I even knew was there, especially with Macro work. I don't have the right camera equipment right now to take the best distance shots unfortunately. So I tend to take binoculars along and lament the absence of a huge camera lens, when I see things I'd love to have captured on camera.

Gotta keep saving those pennies

Sheryl
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 20-08-2006, 10:49 AM
Kev Lewis's Avatar
Commander of the Wild Empire
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Gloucester
Posts: 1,382
Re: observing, photographing or both equal.

Photography first always. If I don't have a camera I can't see the point in walking lol
__________________
Kev Lewis - www.photosbykev.com
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 20-08-2006, 11:28 AM
wildone's Avatar
Commander of the Wild Empire
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Cambridgeshire
Posts: 3,492
Re: observing, photographing or both equal.

Depends on what I am going out for. If its birds, then because my camera is not good enough to take birds, I observe. On the other hand if it is Wildflowers and Fungi then I still like to observe but if I see something different I use the camera. Sometimes I like to take the camera in the hopes that I will see something to snap.
__________________
A poor life this if, full of care, We have no time to stand and stare.
W.H.Davies
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 20-08-2006, 01:11 PM
ogwen's Avatar
Member of the Wild Empire
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Wirral
Posts: 289
Re: observing, photographing or both equal.

I'd have to agree with Kris. I'd miss what the mammals/birds were doing with fidling with my camera.... not to mention I wouldn't get a brilliant picture. They tend to move off before I can click the button . I prefer just to watch their behavior and movement.
__________________
Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much:D
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 20-08-2006, 01:20 PM
Forestknights's Avatar
Active Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Sussex
Posts: 26
Re: observing, photographing or both equal.

Observation for me. I need to be out in the wilds watching animal behaviour. I am now getting more into the photography side. Planning to buy a DSLR soon. I dont what to experience life through the lense of a camera.

I am often travelling in pretty wild conditions and worry that I will spend more time worrying about my camera than enjoying the freedom.
__________________
[URL="http://www.forestknights.co.uk"]http://www.forestknights.co.uk[/URL]
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 20-08-2006, 03:09 PM
Lincs Yellowbelly's Avatar
Commander of the Wild Empire
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Grimsby, Lincs
Posts: 1,562
Blog Entries: 7
Re: observing, photographing or both equal.

Observing easily for me i just love watching wildlife and aren't mega interested in trying to get a picture of it, and i don't really have the equipment to do so anyway.

I suppose for me its just being outside in the middle of nowhere and trying so watch wildlife doing it's thing
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #16 (permalink)  
Old 20-08-2006, 04:08 PM
Alan's Avatar
Frozen
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: N.E. Lincolnshire
Posts: 4,130
Re: observing, photographing or both equal.

Probably equal.

I usually study the wildlife in a particular area (obviously local patches), and if I think there might be a photo opportunity there, I plan for it. These days I don’t normally go out with the photo gear and wander around looking for something to photograph (I’ve had my fill of roaming around for hours without taking the camera out the backpack!). I usually know what I want, and where I’m going first. I’ll only go out if the lights in my favour. Otherwise, it’s just binoculars and notebook/sketchbook for me.

It has to be said though, if I’m travelling a fair distance. I will take the photo gear, but again, I usually plan for good light/weather.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #17 (permalink)  
Old 20-08-2006, 04:58 PM
Fourwings's Avatar
Commander of the Wild Empire
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Leicestershire
Posts: 3,562
Re: observing, photographing or both equal.

Both equal for me.

Good observation technique is essential if you wish to learn about a particular species, this knowledge you have gained can then be put to good use perfecting your fieldcraft skills which in turn will enable you to get that definative image.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #18 (permalink)  
Old 20-08-2006, 07:03 PM
jerryh's Avatar
Member of the Wild Empire
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: London, UK
Posts: 294
Re: observing, photographing or both equal.

Both equal for me but, like Richard, I'd say different times and places for different activities. I do some wildlife sound recording as well, so that adds a third option with another bulky set of equipment!
I will often get to a location early to, say, do some sound recording then switch to birding when everyone else is up and making noise!
I do always take my binoculars with me whatever I'm doing. I find they help to spot and identify potential photo subjects - and if I want to change from photography to observation briefly, I have that option
One thing I'm certain about is that I can't give enough attention to any activity if I try to do more than one thing at a time.

Jerry
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #19 (permalink)  
Old 20-08-2006, 07:32 PM
Jonny's Avatar
Commander of the Wild Empire
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Horsham W Sussex
Posts: 1,474
Re: observing, photographing or both equal.

Good question, and one that pops up from time to time, though never a poll, as far as I know.
I agree with what bushcraft says. It is important to observe, so to learn, and if you are concentrating on getting the perfect shot, you don't always get the full picture. I love to capture what I see, for the record and to show people what I have seen, but I do sometimes leave the camera at home.........
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

» Online Users: 2,198

24 members and 2,174 guests
agrumpycow, Ambriel, cybershot, Dutchess, eucera, Helo, leifus, mh68, najet, nick5943, nicodemus, oshead, Pete Collins, Russ, Snufkin75, Steve Wurzel, stezza, The Black Rabbit, Tracey.A, Venger, Veracocha, whis4ey
Most users ever online was 2,947, 15-07-2008 at 09:27 PM.

» WAB Development Posts

No Threads to Display.

» New Wildlife Posts

Go to first new post Trip report - northern...
Last post by Tracey.A
Today 10:44 AM
8 Replies, 26 Views
Go to first new post Bird of the day!
Last post by Pete Collins
Today 10:36 AM
1,915 Replies, 50,436 Views
Go to first new post Help Identify Wildflowers
Last post by leifus
Today 10:35 AM
9 Replies, 64 Views
Go to first new post Fungi ID needed
Last post by cybershot
Today 10:32 AM
25 Replies, 161 Views
Go to first new post Boletus sp.?
Last post by Steve Wurzel
Today 10:31 AM
20 Replies, 182 Views
Go to first new post grass for id - bent?
Last post by leifus
Today 10:30 AM
2 Replies, 28 Views
Go to first new post Swans and lead poisoning
Last post by Lincs Yellowbelly
Today 10:29 AM
18 Replies, 159 Views
Go to first new post A to Z - new entries
Last post by CloudedYellow
Today 10:23 AM
3 Replies, 40 Views

» New Environment Posts

Go to first new post Wind turbines
Last post by fairplay
Today 07:49 AM
139 Replies, 6,918 Views
Go to first new post Climate Change/Global...
Last post by The Black Rabbit
Today 07:15 AM
16 Replies, 175 Views
Go to first new post School holiday ideas
Last post by Susie
Yester