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27-07-2006, 01:57 PM
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| | | Countryside Management Course Foundation Degree in Countryside Management
Following consultation across the county, This degree has been designed to meet the employment needs of the industry; Balancing sound underpinning knowledge with real "hands on " practical skills. Students can expect to spend at least one day a week outside, either in the field or on the college estate.
Are you already working or vulunteering in the sector but have no formal related qualifications?
Are you looking to enter the industry either as a career change or as a school leaver?
Are you looking for a flexible study mode?
FULL TIME MODE : 2 years, (2 days +1 evening a week)
PART TIME MODE : 3 - 4 years
Year 1: Principles of ecology, countryside management practices, Conservation and community, plant science & taxonomy, Business management, industry placement1.
Year 2: Field biologyand habitat classification, Practical habitat management, practical ecology and surveying, rural land use, sustainable landscape management, Industry placement 2 .
Issues of access, interpretation, green tourism, legislation and policy are embedded throughout the coursees and explored in the relevant context
Year 3, BSc ( hons) Landscape Management ( countryside) awaiting validation
For further information please contact www.Hadlow.ac.uk
0500 551434 liz.humpage@hadlow.ac.uk (programme leader)
Hadlow College
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27-07-2006, 02:05 PM
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| | | Re: Countryside Management Course at HADLOW in kent I'm sorry Dan, although I'd love to do a similar course, this is a forum for discussing wildlife/nature related topics, and not a commercial board for advertising college courses.
It's nothing but spam.. | 
27-07-2006, 02:44 PM
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| | | Re: Countryside Management Course at HADLOW in kent I went on one of these courses and it turned out to be mainly business management!!! and I came out knowing less than what I went in with! Maybe they are not all the same and it was at a different college but it was a shame and a waste of what could have been a very good course! | 
27-07-2006, 04:53 PM
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| | | Re: Countryside Management Course at HADLOW in kent spam spam spam, do you want eggs with that? or more spam? | 
27-07-2006, 04:55 PM
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| | | Re: Countryside Management Course Even though it's an advert, I'll let it stay as it's a relevant non-commercial education course.
I've deleted the other copies that were posted, as multiple postings are usually just taken as spam.
Please add a link to www.wildaboutbritain.co.uk on the Hadlow website.
Thanks
Stuart | 
27-07-2006, 05:05 PM
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| | | Re: Countryside Management Course Fair enough Stuart, it is wildlife related, and a degree is something I've thought about doing for a while now (must do the lottery more!). Although I was under the impression that Universities/colleges make their money by attracting as many students as possible. So if that's not commercial I don't know what is!
Alan | 
27-07-2006, 05:18 PM
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| | | Re: Countryside Management Course Quote: |
Originally Posted by Alan Fair enough Stuart, it is wildlife related, and a degree is something I've thought about doing for a while now (must do the lottery more!). Although I was under the impression that Universities/colleges make their money by attracting as many students as possible. So if that's not commercial I don't know what is!
Alan | It's costing me an arm and a leg to put my eldest through Uni. If I get a discount I'll retract my statement, until then it's just spam and free advertising. Get a donation to WAB Stuart | 
27-07-2006, 05:41 PM
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| | | Re: Countryside Management Course Quote: |
Originally Posted by Kev Lewis It's costing me an arm and a leg to put my eldest through Uni. If I get a discount I'll retract my statement, until then it's just spam and free advertising. Get a donation to WAB Stuart | I agree Kev, a donation is surely a must? they must be pretty desperate to spread the word, most do it in other ways. | 
27-07-2006, 10:01 PM
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| | | Re: Countryside Management Course Im sorry to have done something wrong i had no idea..
Im actually nothing to do with the college...im a mature student looking to do this degree course in september
Unfortunately the course got the ok very late in the day and due to low numbers may not run until next year.
I really dont want or have time to wait another year so was doing all i can to spread the word in the hope of recruiting a few more students..
Call me selfish? I thought it was pretty sensible myself...but feel free to delete this entire thread and the original post. | 
27-07-2006, 10:06 PM
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| | | Re: Countryside Management Course If its not too late to pull out dan you should look at the distance learning course offered by birkbeck college , uni of london instead - IMHO it is better, cheaper, and easier to complete while working, and widely recognised in the conservation field.
I work in conservation and I've never heard of hadlow - not saying its not a good course but the birkbeck one has a reputation the goes before it. There are also many other well though of courses such as those at Moulton, Silsoe, and Otley.
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28-07-2006, 12:12 AM
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| | | Re: Countryside Management Course Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan
Fair enough Stuart, it is wildlife related, and a degree is something I've thought about doing for a while now (must do the lottery more!). Although I was under the impression that Universities/colleges make their money by attracting as many students as possible. So if that's not commercial I don't know what is!
Alan
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It's costing me an arm and a leg to put my eldest through Uni. If I get a discount I'll retract my statement, until then it's just spam and free advertising. Get a donation to WAB Stuart
Hold on guys. I work at a university and my daughter is in her final year. .... It's my bread and butter  and honest, I have nothing to do with tuition fees
John | 
28-07-2006, 07:19 AM
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| | | Re: Countryside Management Course Quote: |
Originally Posted by FungiJohn Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan
Fair enough Stuart, it is wildlife related, and a degree is something I've thought about doing for a while now (must do the lottery more!). Although I was under the impression that Universities/colleges make their money by attracting as many students as possible. So if that's not commercial I don't know what is!
Alan
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It's costing me an arm and a leg to put my eldest through Uni. If I get a discount I'll retract my statement, until then it's just spam and free advertising. Get a donation to WAB Stuart
Hold on guys. I work at a university and my daughter is in her final year. .... It's my bread and butter  and honest, I have nothing to do with tuition fees
John | yeah but you dont post spam about how great your university is....
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28-07-2006, 08:38 AM
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| | | Re: Countryside Management Course Quote: |
Originally Posted by eeyore If its not too late to pull out dan you should look at the distance learning course offered by birkbeck college , uni of london instead - IMHO it is better, cheaper, and easier to complete while working, and widely recognised in the conservation field.
I work in conservation and I've never heard of hadlow - not saying its not a good course but the birkbeck one has a reputation the goes before it. There are also many other well though of courses such as those at Moulton, Silsoe, and Otley. | Sorry to wander slightly off topic but which course in particular at Birbeck eeyore ? I've been looking around but not sure if my relationship would cope with 3 evenings a week at uni
Anyone had any experience of the modular degree in Environmental Studies run out of Exeter Uni ? Its distance learning and seems reasonably priced.
Olly | 
28-07-2006, 09:37 AM
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| | | Re: Countryside Management Course Quote: |
Originally Posted by Dan Salter Im sorry to have done something wrong i had no idea..
Im actually nothing to do with the college...im a mature student looking to do this degree course in september
Unfortunately the course got the ok very late in the day and due to low numbers may not run until next year.
I really dont want or have time to wait another year so was doing all i can to spread the word in the hope of recruiting a few more students..
Call me selfish? I thought it was pretty sensible myself...but feel free to delete this entire thread and the original post. | Dan, your original post did give the impression that you were affiliated to the college in question. It may have been better if you started with an introduction about yourself, and the problem you have with getting on a course. As has been said above there are different routes to go regarding locations and learning methods, so I'm sure we could have helped you in this respect.
Sorry if we offended you by our replies, it's just that of late we have had a lot of 'spam' like posts on the forum!
All the best,
Alan | 
28-07-2006, 09:49 AM
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| | | Re: Countryside Management Course Quote: |
Originally Posted by FungiJohn
Hold on guys. I work at a university and my daughter is in her final year. .... It's my bread and butter  and honest, I have nothing to do with tuition fees
John | Yeah John, but that's where all the tuition fees go! To help you do your fungi research all day lol  | 
28-07-2006, 09:58 AM
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| | | Re: Countryside Management Course looks like quite a good course, I'd do it if I hadn't already done one! Looks better than the straight bio one I did!
Distance learning is good but you don't meet anyone - you don't get the potential contacts for potential future work that you get when studying properly. When a job came up within my old company for example , I rang my tutor to see if he knew of anyone and he gave me some names and one of those people got the job.. and I repeatedly put the cvs in for my old friends.
and thinking back there was very little information available for courses like this when I was applying for a degree I just didn't know about things like British Wildlife magazine where such courses are advertised- and he's right there is definately a lack of people with field skills coming out of uni and my Bio degree really only touched on it - I was just lucky I picked up so much as I grew up.
I don't think it's such a bad idea that proper universities could advertise on a site like this then colledge students who want to work in the environment to protect our wildlife can see the range of options open to them, other than the usual Biology / Environmental science options that everyone knows about. Maybe there should be a specific area on the site though?
Just a thought! | 
28-07-2006, 10:03 AM
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| | | Re: Countryside Management Course Quote: |
Originally Posted by Gill Catton looks like quite a good course, I'd do it if I hadn't already done one! Looks better than the straight bio one I did!
Distance learning is good but you don't meet anyone - you don't get the potential contacts for potential future work that you get when studying properly. When a job came up within my old company for example , I rang my tutor to see if he knew of anyone and he gave me some names and one of those people got the job.. and I repeatedly put the cvs in for my old friends.
and thinking back there was very little information available for courses like this when I was applying for a degree I just didn't know about things like British Wildlife magazine where such courses are advertised- and he's right there is definately a lack of people with field skills coming out of uni and my Bio degree really only touched on it - I was just lucky I picked up so much as I grew up.
I don't think it's such a bad idea that proper universities could advertise on a site like this then colledge students who want to work in the environment to protect our wildlife can see the range of options open to them, other than the usual Biology / Environmental science options that everyone knows about. Maybe there should be a specific area on the site though?
Just a thought! | Sounds good to me! Would be even better it the colleges could contribute to WAB in some way. I'm sure it would be cheaper than magazine articles, and would potentially have a larger audience. | 
28-07-2006, 10:08 AM
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| | | Re: Countryside Management Course Quote: |
Originally Posted by Alan Sounds good to me! Would be even better it the colleges could contribute to WAB in some way. I'm sure it would be cheaper than magazine articles, and would potentially have a larger audience. |
Yes brilliant idea........  | 
28-07-2006, 11:24 AM
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| | | Re: Countryside Management Course Thanks Eeyore for the advice...But im actually looking to do the whole full time student experience as part of my reasons for returning to education is not only to get a degree but to meet some new poeple, friends and like minded people , im currently un employed so im used to being broke ! ; )
And also wow...thanks GILL at last a positive reply...finally my thread seems to maybe have a positive outcome...
And the guy who keeps on about spam and college donations the college and me are not connected...I put the post up purely for selfish desperate reasons...as im 33 i dont want to have to TRAVEL or live at a uni that is miles away...HADLOW is on my doorstep so i was am desperate for this course to run this year and was trying to spread the word to hopefully snag a few more students?...I thought it was a good idea but hey.
So thanks for the "nice" replys but distance learning ot part time is not an option and neither is travelling or moving away.
I would love to have found a page on a forum that discussed uni's/colleges and courses in the environment sector as i very nearly ended up on an environmental science degree but when i looked at the modules it was ALL classroom/lab based and would have bored me/scared me to death....These field based courses are much better imho.
And to prove i have no affilliation with HADLOW...my two FIRST choices course and facilities/estate wise are SPASHOLT college in hampshire and WRITTLE college in Essex but both are too far away but WRITTLE is where i shall go if hadlow does not run the course this year  | 
28-07-2006, 11:31 AM
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| | | Re: Countryside Management Course Hello Dan
Writtle college is good, I know someone that goes there, and is doing a Wildlife Management Degree.
Alan | 
28-07-2006, 07:38 PM
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| | | Re: Countryside Management Course Quote: |
Originally Posted by life through a lens Sorry to wander slightly off topic but which course in particular at Birbeck eeyore ? I've been looking around but not sure if my relationship would cope with 3 evenings a week at uni
Anyone had any experience of the modular degree in Environmental Studies run out of Exeter Uni ? Its distance learning and seems reasonably priced.
Olly | I did the MSc in countryside management - it starts off as a pgdip then you extend it to a masters by doing extra modules - although its an msc if you have "relevant life experience" you dont necessarily need a Bsc - it worlks on the basis of 1 weekend a month for 2 years, plus 1 weeklong summer school.
Ive no personal exp of exeter but they are well regarded generally, another good one to check out is otley which is validated by UEA
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30-07-2006, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Alan Hello Dan
Writtle college is good, I know someone that goes there, and is doing a Wildlife Management Degree.
Alan | LOL who could you possibly be talking about there.....Herbie maybe? 
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30-07-2006, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by nicole LOL who could you possibly be talking about there.....Herbie maybe?  | No a little cheeky monkey that keep bothering me
Hey why don't you give Dan some advice pal? |  | | |