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03-07-2006, 12:44 PM
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Nature loving litter louts - possible, or a contradiction in terms?
Presumably folk who visit the countryside/parks/seaside etc. do so because they enjoy the beauty of the environment - why, then, do some leave their rubbish behind, or toss beer cans, crisp packets etc. into the undergrowth as they walk along? It's annoying and puzzling in villages, towns and cities and even more irritating and inexplicable in the countryside. How do you educate those who do it to see the error of their ways?
If we all behaved similarly imagine just how these beautiful islands would look.
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03-07-2006, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Tinkerbell Nature loving litter louts - possible, or a contradiction in terms?
Presumably folk who visit the countryside/parks/seaside etc. do so because they enjoy the beauty of the environment - why, then, do some leave their rubbish behind, or toss beer cans, crisp packets etc. into the undergrowth as they walk along? It's annoying and puzzling in villages, towns and cities and even more irritating and inexplicable in the countryside. How do you educate those who do it to see the error of their ways?
If we all behaved similarly imagine just how these beautiful islands would look.
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I know what you mean ... there's a little area of heath / woods near me where I often go on my way home from work, just to see what's about, and the things you find there .... obviously being relatively quiet and out of town means that people go there to do ALL sorts of things .... 
Which is fine, I'm not against it (as long as they don't do it in broad daylight  ), but I wish they would take all their litter home with them afterwards .... 
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03-07-2006, 02:57 PM
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And there's always Mcdonalds litter.
You can be savouring the tranquility and beauty in the most secret glade when you catch sight of a Mcdonalds bag which will remind you of the worst in human behavior, bring you out of your Zen like relaxation and spoil the moment.
Wheel em out & shoot em I say 
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03-07-2006, 03:09 PM
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I took a nice view shot when I was out on Boxhill on Saturday. When I downloaded the pics I found there was loads of litter in the foreground of the shot. I've obviously got so used to people littering that I don't see it anymore.
I can't understand why people need to litter, it's no more difficult to carry litter home than it was to carry it out into the countryside in the first place. |
03-07-2006, 03:35 PM
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I wish that litter louts had one big fat neck so that I could strangle them all at once. These people are not nature lovers, just half-wits looking for a place to stuff their big-round faces In most cases it is a mindless act with no thought or consideration for the consequences. It makes my blood boil... |
03-07-2006, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Marvin Africa I wish that litter louts had one big fat neck so that I could strangle them all at once. These people are not nature lovers, just half-wits looking for a place to stuff their big-round faces In most cases it is a mindless act with no thought or consideration for the consequences. It makes my blood boil... | What a great reply! If the subject wasn't so serious I'd have laughed my head off!!
You can be in the remotest wood and you still kick beer cans or notice white carrier bags  and there seems to be a fashion for campfires at the minute, usually on pine needle/peat rich ground. They can burn for months! |
03-07-2006, 04:29 PM
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This all extends from upbringing and education. I watched a young lad being collected from the school grounds a while back. As he walked along, he unwrapped a sweet that his Mum had just given him,dropped the wrapper on the floor and kept going. I promptly picked it up , handed it back to him and said infront of his mother, we have bins please use them. She grabbed the wrapper off him, gave me a stern look, walked outside the school gate and dropped it herself!!!! I was fuming!! But you could just tell that this is what this family did.
It wasn't trained into them that you didn't abuse the space that we all share.
I see this sort of behaviour so much amongst kids and I fear that it is a neverending circle until there are powers that enforce that fact that is anti-social behaviour and that a 'little telling off 'is of no use at all. Education, BIG fines and prison sentences -long ones-for fly-tippers.
Ok. I've just dismounted my high horse.ww
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03-07-2006, 05:55 PM
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Dont get me started on litter we just ran a two day festival - 3 hours spent l/picking both sat and sun eves was a chore I could do without. Alltogether we filled 2 seven tonne skips.
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03-07-2006, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Wild-Woman BIG fines and prison sentences -long ones-for fly-tippers. | Personally I think we should just shoot em on sight , that would save considerable time and money in the justice system.
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03-07-2006, 06:02 PM
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Tell me about it, its a real nightmare. I was meant to be doing work in the woodland today but had to go litter picking instead as the park was absolutely packed with rubbish. Why do people do it. It makes me laugh as these people would be the first to complain if the country park started to get really untidy.
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03-07-2006, 06:07 PM
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I usually end up taking it home, too many people nowdays have "human rights" and act like animals
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03-07-2006, 06:15 PM
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Too right nicole - my employers spend arround £35k a year on cleansing - just think what else they could do with the money !..... They could buy me a hasselblad H1 with leaf aptus digi back and a set of lenses for starters 
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03-07-2006, 06:29 PM
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This is a piccy I took at Beecy Head in the spring. loads of assorted plastic had been thrown onto bushes.   |
03-07-2006, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by eeyore Too right nicole - my employers spend arround £35k a year on cleansing - just think what else they could do with the money !..... They could buy me a hasselblad H1 with leaf aptus digi back and a set of lenses for starters | It wasn't fun litter picking in this weather I can tell ya...I was really looking forward to being in the nice cool woodland too I really wish people would respect the countryside more.
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03-07-2006, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by nicole It wasn't fun litter picking in this weather I can tell ya...I was really looking forward to being in the nice cool woodland too I really wish people would respect the countryside more. | Tell me about it - everynight I came home stinking of cheap lager and fried food, and while this is quite normal for me I hadnt even been out on the lash
I think my particular low point was when I had to climb inside the skip to restack the bags to increase capacity - yuk. Or possibly when a drunk footie fan poored a bottle of stella over me - I had just told him no glass bottles were allowed. double yuk
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03-07-2006, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by eeyore Tell me about it - everynight I came home stinking of cheap lager and fried food, and while this is quite normal for me I hadnt even been out on the lash
I think my particular low point was when I had to climb inside the skip to restack the bags to increase capacity - yuk. Or possibly when a drunk footie fan poored a bottle of stella over me - I had just told him no glass bottles were allowed. double yuk | That really sounds awful mate I reckon countryside wardens deserve medals for some of the jobs they have to do
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03-07-2006, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by nicole That really sounds awful mate I reckon countryside wardens deserve medals for some of the jobs they have to do | Mind you we did have a laugh yesterday - saturday night these kids had camped over and left about three bags of litter scattered around their tent which we had to pick up on sunday morning. As camping aint allowed in our parks we also confiscated the tent leaving them a note.
When they came and said "we want our tent back" we smiled sweetly and said "not until you have picked up three bags of rubbish." lol. When they came back with their three bags I was in a real bad mood so we made em empty all the bins and carry the nasty yucky rubbish to the skip before we let em have their tent back - that'll teach em, I havent laughed so much in years
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03-07-2006, 07:24 PM
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I wonder what ever happened to being taught the countryside code in school - as I was. My only idea for a solution is to impose hefty taxes on manufacturers packaging at source, ban those terrible plastic shopping bags (?how - no idea) and have offenders organised into working parties and clearing up stuff as a form of sentencing, rather than a small fine, probation etc. |
03-07-2006, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Varan Komodosky offenders organised into working parties and clearing up stuff as a form of sentencing, rather than a small fine, probation etc. | We've done that with the community service folk from time to time but someone has to supervise them which is not a nice job.
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03-07-2006, 08:26 PM
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[quote=Varan Komodosky] ban those terrible plastic shopping bags (?how - no idea) QUOTE]
Ban the plastic ones and make them use the biodegradable ones.
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03-07-2006, 08:34 PM
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I think the government should send out DNA squads, to test the litter and hold the samples on a data base, and if a match comes up, which it quickly would with these lawless idiots, then a hefty fine goes their way |
03-07-2006, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Jonny I think the government should send out DNA squads, to test the litter and hold the samples on a data base, and if a match comes up, which it quickly would with these lawless idiots, then a hefty fine goes their way | nice, but wouldnt it be cheaper just to send out a decent number of cleansing teams - which is something the govt has singly failed to do.
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03-07-2006, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by eeyore nice, but wouldnt it be cheaper just to send out a decent number of cleansing teams - which is something the govt has singly failed to do. | Probably, but it doesn't get to the root of the problem. Saying that, they use the offenders to clean around here, might make them think twice........... |
04-07-2006, 06:21 AM
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I'm SO cross this morning, I think if I see someone dropping litter I may end up in clink myself. GRRR! Very Wild-Woman
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04-07-2006, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Wild-Woman I'm SO cross this morning, I think if I see someone dropping litter I may end up in clink myself. GRRR! Very Wild-Woman |
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