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02-07-2006, 08:22 AM
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| | | Welsh 3000s I have already posted this in the marketing group forum so apologies to Stu et al for the duplication - sorry about that.
Anyway I'm thinking about trying to break the welsh three thousands record as a publicity stunt/ sponsored fundraiser for WAB. (for those that dont know this is the record for getting to the tops of all the 3000ft peaks in the snowdon range in the shortest time)
Its currently a tad under 5hours as set by a fell runner in 03 (prior to that it had stood at just over 8 hours since 1932)
If I go for this i would expect to get decent coverage in running mags, and outdoor magazines such Trail, plus possibly in the national press. Which would be a brilliant way to promote the site.
Anyway the reason for this post is that I really would prefer to do this with a running mate and I wondered if any other wabbers out there who would be up for it.
If you are either post here or send me a PM
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02-07-2006, 08:48 AM
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| | | Re: Welsh 3000s Best of luck to to you eeyore .... go for it mate.
Unfortunately I could not even run to the local shop let alone around the Snowdon peaks so I think I may have to pass on this one  .
Let's hope there is a superfit WABer somewhere out there to join you on this brilliant idea.
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02-07-2006, 09:16 AM
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| | | Re: Welsh 3000s Best of luck Eeyore,  hope you break the record. If it was 20 years ago I may have been able to help you. Nowadays I have trouble with my country walks
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02-07-2006, 10:14 AM
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| | | Re: Welsh 3000s It'll happen even if i have to do it alone but there must be some supermen or women on this site somewhere, come ahead folks dont be shy
When I/we get to organising it I'll be looking for volunteers to man/woman way points and to help get sponsors etc so everybody will be able contribute there might.
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02-07-2006, 12:30 PM
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| | | Re: Welsh 3000s Well I'm no athlete being a tad too old for that, but I do wish you all the best in this and I hope you find someone to accompany you
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02-07-2006, 03:14 PM
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| | | Re: Welsh 3000s Well after my 5Km today at Blackheath, I'll be wishing you all the best because I now know how unfit I would be for it. What a great idea eeyore and you'll certainly get my support.
Good luck Eeoyore. Power to your legs. Julie
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02-07-2006, 03:41 PM
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| | | Re: Welsh 3000s Well I know a bit about this, most people try to do in a day, and thats a long day, a very long day. To do it in 5 hrs is incredible. Eeyore, you must be really fit to even attempt this, or a nutter  . How are you on heights and exposure, I bet the person who did it in 5 hrs ran across the crib goch (sp?) ridge. Me ?, I stumbled across on me bum, scared stiff.
Good luck to you Eeyore, I hope you do it. Have you tried to get sponsorship off some of the outdoorsey companies. I may of joined you about 15 years ago as I used to do quite a bit of running, mostly longer distance, but I am now nearly the wrong side of 40 and not so much into challenges.................Jon | 
02-07-2006, 06:30 PM
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| | | Re: Welsh 3000s Keep this one on the boil Eeyore and let us know how we may help, even if it doesn't involve running. I'd be more of a hindrance than a help on some of those peaks!
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03-07-2006, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Jonny Well I know a bit about this, most people try to do in a day, and thats a long day, a very long day. To do it in 5 hrs is incredible. Eeyore, you must be really fit to even attempt this, or a nutter  . How are you on heights and exposure, I bet the person who did it in 5 hrs ran across the crib goch (sp?) ridge. Me ?, I stumbled across on me bum, scared stiff.
Good luck to you Eeyore, I hope you do it. Have you tried to get sponsorship off some of the outdoorsey companies. I may of joined you about 15 years ago as I used to do quite a bit of running, mostly longer distance, but I am now nearly the wrong side of 40 and not so much into challenges.................Jon | I've tried it before with my mate jamie back in '94 We did it in just over 8 hours, missing the then record by 13 miniutes , give or take a few seconds.
We ran everywhere except for crib goch which we walked briskly - we ran the tryfan ridge though wich was pretty scary - but no worse than the running iron or the fan dance (for the uninitated the latter is a route over pen y fan, originally devised by the SAS for their selection but now run by idiots like me trying for the civilian record - the army (and overall) record being well out of reach of ordinary mortals.)
I'm going to do it even if I have to run alone or drag in one of my mates from outside wab - but it would be better publicity wise if another Wabber was up for it. When I we get everything set up we will need a couple of volunteers on top of most of the peaks with water etc, plus people to try for sponsorship etc.
Thing is even if I fail I bet we can get trail etc to cover the attempt so Wab will benefit regardless.
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03-07-2006, 09:52 PM
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| | | Re: Welsh 3000s For those wondering what the fuss is about take a look here http://www.photos.mnb.org.uk/2005/we...0s/report.html these folks did it in a little over 16 hours - the record I'm going to try and break (with my so far invisible running partner, hopefully) is 4 hours 19 minuites.
Ideally it would be good if there are any super fit ladies on here (in the original sense of the word I assure you,) as they could then also try for the womens record of 5 hours 28 mins.
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05-07-2006, 11:23 PM
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| | | Re: Welsh 3000s Just to let every body know that after talking to StuDH I have opened a training diary for my attempt over in the diaries section http://www.wildaboutbritain.co.uk/fo...owjournal&j=10 I intend to use this to keep everybody informed of what is going on and to keep up my morale so please come over and give me some support.
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06-07-2006, 04:30 AM
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| | | Re: Welsh 3000s This is frustrating for I would so love to do it and could be capable of it, I'm sure. Unfortunately, as much as I'd love to say yes, I too will have to decline, for this sort of thing needs intense preparation. I did used to do two six mile runs a week but that's some time ago now, and although I walk for a good hour and a half most nights, I still feel that I'd be certified if I said yes.
The reason why he's fit everyone, is because his avatar is constantly running on the spot. I sometimes scroll incredibly quickly down a thread he's been involved in, just to see if I can catch his avatar having a quick breather, but no.
Was originally going to reply to this thread by saying that I couldn't run a bath
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06-07-2006, 05:13 PM
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| | | Re: Welsh 3000s Eeyore.........Would you not be better doing it on your own, because if the other person cannot do it or twists an ankle etc, it might stop you from completing and after all your hard work training for it, you might be a little upset.
Also how about asking people to support you by waiting at points along the route, with water and snacks and encouragement...............Jon | 
06-07-2006, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Jonny Eeyore.........Would you not be better doing it on your own, because if the other person cannot do it or twists an ankle etc, it might stop you from completing and after all your hard work training for it, you might be a little upset.
Also how about asking people to support you by waiting at points along the route, with water and snacks and encouragement...............Jon | I'm going to do that too jonny - thats what i meant about manning way points - however training for this kind of thing is v. v. arduous and takes a lot of grit, not short of guts myself but its a lot easier if there are two of you.
Also as you rightly point out if one runner is injured the other has a duty to abandon the attempt to help them to safety. However the flip side of this is that if I am injured at least I wont have to work out how the flip I'm going to get off tryfan ridge on my own with a busted ankle or something.
As i said I will do it alone if i have to but i would rather run with a mate. another option is to pull in one or both of my mates paul and jamie - both are frigteningly fit ( Paul is a major / brevet Light colonel in RGJ while Jamie is a captain in 2 para). however from a wab publicity point of view it would be better if both runners were wabbites. I cant believe that out of 2000 members I'm the only one who wants to do this.
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17-07-2006, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by eeyore I have already posted this in the marketing group forum so apologies to Stu et al for the duplication - sorry about that.
Anyway I'm thinking about trying to break the welsh three thousands record as a publicity stunt/ sponsored fundraiser for WAB. (for those that dont know this is the record for getting to the tops of all the 3000ft peaks in the snowdon range in the shortest time)
Its currently a tad under 5hours as set by a fell runner in 03 (prior to that it had stood at just over 8 hours since 1932)
If I go for this i would expect to get decent coverage in running mags, and outdoor magazines such Trail, plus possibly in the national press. Which would be a brilliant way to promote the site.
Anyway the reason for this post is that I really would prefer to do this with a running mate and I wondered if any other wabbers out there who would be up for it.
If you are either post here or send me a PM | I thoroughly admire your ambition, and, having done the 3000's twice myself (once from the top of Snowdon and once all the way from Llanberis - and that was a long way) I can understand what motivates you.
However, unless you're a 2 hour 15 marathon runner, or one of the top fell runners in the world, you haven't a realistic chance of breaking the record. Just take a look at the record holder's split times on the website "history of the Welsh 3000's" and you'll know what I mean - awesome! You"ll have to sprint along the Crib Goch ridge!
Anyway, best of luck. It's a superb walk/run, and something to remember all your life. | 
17-07-2006, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by becauseitsthere I thoroughly admire your ambition, and, having done the 3000's twice myself (once from the top of Snowdon and once all the way from Llanberis - and that was a long way) I can understand what motivates you.
However, unless you're a 2 hour 15 marathon runner, or one of the top fell runners in the world, you haven't a realistic chance of breaking the record. Just take a look at the record holder's split times on the website "history of the Welsh 3000's" and you'll know what I mean - awesome! You"ll have to sprint along the Crib Goch ridge!
Anyway, best of luck. It's a superb walk/run, and something to remember all your life. | The last marathon I did I came in in just under 4.5 hours - but that was a while ago, I may also be running london next year for WAB if we get places.
I have no claim to be superfit (yet  ) and frankly I'd be happy to come in under the 1932 firbank record, my last attempt in 1994 came in in a tad over 8hrs 12 so I know how hard it will be, but we shall see - The main purpose (other to impress the ladeez obviously  ) is to raise awareness of WAB by getting as much editorial as possible about the attempt.
If it is obvious in the fullness of time that I cannot hope to make a realistic attempt on the 3000s record I will go for something else like the civie record over the fan dance ( came close to that once), or trying to win, or at least place in the running iron, or the royal hills, or... well the list is endless.
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17-07-2006, 07:57 PM
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| | | Re: Welsh 3000s I'd be happy to beat Firbank's record, and I have to say, 8 hours is impressive. Good effort! | 
17-07-2006, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by becauseitsthere I'd be happy to beat Firbank's record, and I have to say, 8 hours is impressive. Good effort! | cheers, I was younger then - gosh twelve years ago  and my running mate went on to be paratrooper - but we shall see, the attempt isnt due til spring next year so we shall see.... plenty of time to wimp out yet  or not 
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17-07-2006, 09:31 PM
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| | | Re: Welsh 3000s It took me and a mate all day to do the snowdon horseshoe and half of that was spent with him trying to unpeel me from the crib coch ridge. Its strange, crib coch was the first ridge I ever did and it scared me more than any I have done since, that are meant to be harder, like the aonach eagach and the curved ridge on buachaille etive mor.............. | 
17-07-2006, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Jonny It took me and a mate all day to do the snowdon horseshoe and half of that was spent with him trying to unpeel me from the crib coch ridge. Its strange, crib coch was the first ridge I ever did and it scared me more than any I have done since, that are meant to be harder, like the aonach eagach and the curved ridge on buachaille etive mor.............. | I'm not too woried about crib coch, I shall adopt the same approach as last time - walk briskly, dont try and run, dont look down and keep a stiff upper lip and think of england old boy.
Frankly it is tryfan that worries me most, they dont call it the widdow maker for nothing 
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17-07-2006, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by eeyore I'm not too woried about crib coch, I shall adopt the same approach as last time - walk briskly, dont try and run, dont look down and keep a stiff upper lip and think of england old boy.
Frankly it is tryfan that worries me most, they dont call it the widdow maker for nothing  | Did tryfan, north face the day after snowdon horseshoe and found it really easy and not scary at all, just an excellent scramble. Didn't jump Jack and Jill on the glyders though, it was blowing a hoolie | 
17-07-2006, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Jonny Did tryfan, north face the day after snowdon horseshoe and found it really easy and not scary at all, just an excellent scramble. Didn't jump Jack and Jill on the glyders though, it was blowing a hoolie | Dont get me wrong, ive climbed tryfan several times no prob - I phrased my previous poat wrong - Its running down tryfan that worries me...
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