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08-06-2006, 02:53 PM
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is it just me or is any one irritated by bill Oddy .i turned off last night as i could not stand him any longer .he seems to trivialise and dumb down the whole program, which i regret as i think some of it is really good
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08-06-2006, 03:29 PM
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No it's not just you, although I don't find him half as irritating as the vacuous blonde chatterbox who sits next to him. It has to be said though, he's doing a good PR job for wildlife, and I'll forgive a multitude of sins for that. |
08-06-2006, 04:20 PM
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I wouldn't be too hard on the old boy! His humor often makes the whole subject a bit more accessable to a lot of people. It's just his nature. After all, he was/is a comic! |
08-06-2006, 04:39 PM
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Please, do we have to have this debate on this site? The Springwatch site has been bogged down with it since the programme started & it always ends up degenerating until the moderators intervene - hence the current 3 minute interval between postings rule.
People can choose to watch or not, all I would say is that it must be hard for anyone to put out a live show, not knowing from one minute to the next what will be happening. At least all the team do it with enthusiasm.
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08-06-2006, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by tomarg06 Please, do we have to have this debate on this site...People can choose to watch or not | IMO one of the best things about WAB is that we can discuss things like this, on the whole without things getting silly. so just as people can chose to watch or not, people can also chose to read this thread or not.
as far as the does bill iritate thing goes - he irritates the **** out of me, but then so do most wildlife presenters - even david attenborough. To be fair he (Bill Oddie) isnt like that in person, I met him when i worked at weeting heath in 99, I think a lot of the dumbing down is inflicted on him by the producers/script writers who are trying to make the show accesible to people who know nowt about wildlife.
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08-06-2006, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by eeyore IMO one of the best things about WAB is that we can discuss things like this, on the whole without things getting silly. so just as people can chose to watch or not, people can also chose to read this thread or not.
as far as the does bill iritate thing goes - he irritates the **** out of me, but then so do most wildlife presenters - even david attenborough. To be fair he (Bill Oddie) isnt like that in person, I met him when i worked at weeting heath in 99, I think a lot of the dumbing down is inflicted on him by the producers/script writers who are trying to make the show accesible to people who know nowt about wildlife. | I have to agree. I have met Bill on a few occasions and he is a great ambassador, not only for Birdwatching but wildlife in general.
If dumbing down has to be the norm to get through to the masses then so be it. I'm all for it. If he was to get all tecnical and try and make the subject matter understanding to those of us that are committed to wildlife already how do you think the ordinary Jo, that has little or no knowledge of wildlife, would react to the programme. I think they would switch off fairly quickly.
I for one thoroughly enjoy the programme because it aims at an easy level.
You have to remember that Bill has many personal problems and to put himself in front of a live camera 4 nights a week must be hard for him. He is a manic depresive at times and his mood swings are well known.
Lets give credit to the man for bringing all forms of wildlife to the masses over the years. Between him and David Attenborough I can't think of anyone else that has had such impact on the ordinary person where Wildlife in general is concerned.
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08-06-2006, 07:26 PM
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Well personally I think Bill Oddie is very good and a very nice person a good wildlife presnter and a good actor . But then you see he lives in Hampstead where I come from and peeps from Hampstead are all very nice |
08-06-2006, 07:26 PM
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It cannot be easy to link in a live programme,when the stars are animals birds and insects
I love the blonde,and certainly have time for bill oddie given his start in life
The one I cannot stand is the poor b in shetland nothing personal but he lacks delivery
The whole series brings breakfast queries at work and anything that can spark interest is good in my book
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08-06-2006, 07:34 PM
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08-06-2006, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by nightshade It cannot be easy to link in a live programme,when the stars are animals birds and insects
I love the blonde,and certainly have time for bill oddie given his start in life
The one I cannot stand is the poor b in shetland nothing personal but he lacks delivery
The whole series brings breakfast queries at work and anything that can spark interest is good in my book | Couldn't agree more! Simon King is just too serious and completely lacks any sign of Charisma! I normally go to the loo or make a brew when he is on.
Kate is a bit of a babe, even if she does get a little too excited for my taste at times.
Bill manages to mix a little fun with his passion (even though I don't actually find him very funny) - He makes the whole subject of wildlife & bird watching less geeky and as mentioned above, more accesable to all! |
08-06-2006, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Wild-Woman | Here here  |
08-06-2006, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Tursiops No it's not just you, although I don't find him half as irritating as the vacuous blonde chatterbox who sits next to him. It has to be said though, he's doing a good PR job for wildlife, and I'll forgive a multitude of sins for that. | Vacuous blonde chatterbox?
That vacuous londe chatterbox would be welcome round my yard anytime. I think Kate is lovely. Possibly my favourite girl on TV |
08-06-2006, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Boddie Vacuous blonde chatterbox?
That vacuous londe chatterbox would be welcome round my yard anytime. I think Kate is lovely. Possibly my favourite girl on TV | I must admit I find her quite easy on the eye as well 
I can understand why some people wouldn't like the two of them for their informal delivery etc but I think they do just about pull it off.
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08-06-2006, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Beryl Here here | Me too, I love watching springwatch and I like Bill Odie too |
08-06-2006, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Barbara Me too, I love watching springwatch and I like Bill Odie too | Well said that person. And I think less of the old boy. Bill Oddie is only 2 months older than me
As an ornithologist, conservationist and natural history presenter. he has been an obsessive birdwatcher since childhood and has written for many specialist publications: British Birds, Birdwatching Magazine, Twitching etc. |
08-06-2006, 09:20 PM
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i can very easy put up with mr oddie & i think the show is great. just watched it tonight.& i was wishing i was there with my new camera.lol... |
08-06-2006, 10:12 PM
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I can't believe that anyone thinks that Simon King lacks delivery. Did you never watch the series about the Cheetahs, or any of the other series that he has been in. He has been inspirational.
Regarding Shetland. He is in an environment where he can't really get too emotional as he is totally open to what is around him. No trees to hide him just totally open countryside so his movements have to be laboured and to a degree so has his speech. He was much better last year on Bass Rock because he was allowed to express himself in the way he wanted.
He actually did a talk at the Birdforum marquee last year and I got the chance to talk to him. He is an amazing man with such passion for wildlife and it rubs off on anyone that comes into contact with him.
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08-06-2006, 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by John I can't believe that anyone thinks that Simon King lacks delivery. Did you never watch the series about the Cheetahs, or any of the other series that he has been in. He has been inspirational.
Regarding Shetland. He is in an environment where he can't really get too emotional as he is totally open to what is around him. No trees to hide him just totally open countryside so his movements have to be laboured and to a degree so has his speech. He was much better last year on Bass Rock because he was allowed to express himself in the way he wanted.
He actually did a talk at the Birdforum marquee last year and I got the chance to talk to him. He is an amazing man with such passion for wildlife and it rubs off on anyone that comes into contact with him.
John | Here here.
I think Simon King is great and I watch his programs avidly , He comes over superbly and has great personality |
08-06-2006, 10:35 PM
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I do find that Simon seems to keep repeating the same words night after night which i find a bit irritating but other than that it's been worth watching but for some reason i haven't found it as enjoyable as previous years..........can't put my finger on why though. |
08-06-2006, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark43 I do find that Simon seems to keep repeating the same words night after night which i find a bit irritating but other than that it's been worth watching but for some reason i haven't found it as enjoyable as previous years..........can't put my finger on why though. | I must admit that I can see where you are coming from. Perhaps it's because the format is very similar as the previous years. I also find that some of the short films are not as exciting as previous years (remember the foxes last year in the garden).
Simon is a bit stilted this year but you may find that next week when he is in a different habitat he might bounce back with his usual style, and yes I agree with his repetitiveness. Mind you he hasn't had a large amount to talk about. Otter, Oystercatcher, Merlin and Red Throated Diver in the main. That is not a very big supporting cast for him to talk about and there is only so much you can say about the same thing.
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09-06-2006, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Boddie Vacuous blonde chatterbox?
That vacuous londe chatterbox would be welcome round my yard anytime. I think Kate is lovely. Possibly my favourite girl on TV | I must be getting old  |
09-06-2006, 12:02 PM
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Addendum: I must confess, I actually have a soft spot for Bill. I was on one of his shows once (not wildlife, one of his Glastonbury progs many years ago). I didn't meet the Man himself, but I got twenty quid for the gig, at a time when i needed the money, so I'm not as anti as I might seem. |
13-06-2006, 06:48 PM
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Did anyone catch the small film by John acheson (think that’s how you spell it!) on Springwatch last night?
It was entitled ‘Looking for Beauty’
Only 5 minutes long, but what a little gem of a film! It was the best sequence of the series up to now for me. It was about anticipation of beauty when he’s trying to capture it on film.
As John said: ‘Natures beauty in not just in what I see, it’s in what looking for it does to me’
He then ended by quoting William Blake:
‘To see a world in a grain of sand, and a heaven in a wild flower, hold infinity in the palm of your hand, and eternity in an hour’
Absolutely lovely stuff.
More of this I say! |
13-06-2006, 06:55 PM
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Yes Alan. It was wonderful. ww |
13-06-2006, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan Did anyone catch the small film by John acheson (think that’s how you spell it!) on Springwatch last night?
It was entitled ‘Looking for Beauty’
Only 5 minutes long, but what a little gem of a film! It was the best sequence of the series up to now for me. It was about anticipation of beauty when he’s trying to capture it on film.
As John said: ‘Natures beauty in not just in what I see, it’s in what looking for it does to me’
He then ended by quoting William Blake:
‘To see a world in a grain of sand, and a heaven in a wild flower, hold infinity in the palm of your hand, and eternity in an hour’
Absolutely lovely stuff.
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