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Old 24-11-2007, 07:36 AM
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On another planet.

Not me...well sometimes folk might decribe me as the title of my thread. I'm curious to know how many folk think there may be life on another planet.
My person view is, I don't see why not. If you do, do think that the line up of species may be similar to our own, with an equivalent to humans?
My thoughts are that for any world, there would need to be a vast established range of species that depend on each other like we do. Just to think of an alien insect, what it may be like and it's adaptations is somewhat mind-boggling.
What got me thinking was watching the sky-this morning, crystal clear and and studded with thousands of stars and possibilities.
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Old 24-11-2007, 08:17 AM
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Re: On another planet.

Never say never, that's what I say. Who knows what is out there. I don't think it can be ruled out.
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Old 24-11-2007, 08:25 AM
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Re: On another planet.

I would think that as most of the celestial bodies we see in the night sky and all the ones we can't see around the other side of our little planet are stars, and a lot of them probably have other little planets revolving around them, the odds against there being other life forms would be fairly low. As for the forms they would take I would expect there to be some the same as ours.

Another question to throw in........is if something a long time ago stood on the thing that evolved into humans and we didn't evolve what would might be running the show now? And........ would they be doing a better job than us? Before anybody says they couldn't do any worse, we haven't got a really bad lot have we?
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Old 24-11-2007, 08:39 AM
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Re: On another planet.

Julie, this is a question I have often asked myself, usually as you say when you have a clear night sky and zillions of stars to gaze up at. Endless possibilities indeed.

The laws of probability suggest there must surely be other life forms out there but maybe the laws of physics, chemistry, etc. say otherwise .... and maybe we will never know.

Let's hope that if there is an advanced (?) life form out there like ourselves, it is taking greater care of the biodiversity it has a responsibility for preserving and conserving than we are .... "we" in the global sense of humankind not WAB I hasten to add.

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Old 24-11-2007, 08:49 AM
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Re: On another planet.

I can't believe that out of billions of planets that Earth is the only one with life on it.
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Old 24-11-2007, 08:59 AM
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Re: On another planet.

Hi,

Yes, I think there is another type of life form out there, but, are we rats in someone else's laboratory.

I know, I've been reading too much sci-fi.

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Old 24-11-2007, 02:40 PM
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Never say never, that's what I say. Who knows what is out there. I don't think it can be ruled out.
I agree with that sentiment. We have no proof but who knows. With the vastness of space there could be anything out there. Including the truth.

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Old 24-11-2007, 04:46 PM
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I agree with that sentiment. We have no proof but who knows. With the vastness of space there could be anything out there. Including the truth.

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Re: On another planet.

I read a statistical analysis on this a couple of years ago. Obviously there were lots of assumptions made i.e. how many planets there are, how many of them are in the ‘goldilocks’ zone for life (as we know it), how many stars are suitable for life, the likelihood of life emerging even if everything was OK for life etc. At each stage they assumed that life is so unlikely that they included odds against each necessary stage as being between 1 and 10 billion against (depending on the variable being considered). This reckoned that due to the sheer number of planets and stars it is likely that there are at least 1 billion planets with life of some sort on them.

So whenever you look up, smile – you never know who’s watching, even if they won’t see the smile for thousands or even millions of years!

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Old 24-11-2007, 07:32 PM
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I read a statistical analysis on this a couple of years ago. Obviously there were lots of assumptions made i.e. how many planets there are, how many of them are in the ‘goldilocks’ zone for life (as we know it), how many stars are suitable for life, the likelihood of life emerging even if everything was OK for life etc. At each stage they assumed that life is so unlikely that they included odds against each necessary stage as being between 1 and 10 billion against (depending on the variable being considered). This reckoned that due to the sheer number of planets and stars it is likely that there are at least 1 billion planets with life of some sort on them.

So whenever you look up, smile – you never know who’s watching, even if they won’t see the smile for thousands or even millions of years!

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Wasnt it Carl Sagan that came up with a mathmatical equation that theorises that there would be at least a billion planets that could support life?

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Old 24-11-2007, 07:45 PM
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Re: On another planet.

There must be, if there is all that space. Whether it visits earth is another story.
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Old 24-11-2007, 10:04 PM
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Re: On another planet.

i think there is life out there somewhere,i too cant belive out of all those planets, we have got the only one with life on it, i have also thought ( daft as it may sound )we all think we are big,what if we are only as small as an ant, because we have nothing to compare us with,how do we know, the mind boggles just thinking about it,lets just hope if there is life on another planet they are small,because if they are big we will be their ants.
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Old 24-11-2007, 10:30 PM
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Re: On another planet.

If you turn the thought on its head - here we are - sat on this wonderfully ridiculously complicated planet system......... so if we are here why shouldn't the same or better be elsewhere - space is endless so they say. We tend to get carried away with our own cleverness (and I mean humans and human nature - not wab in particular!) and we tell ourselves that evolution has put us at the very top of the chain........really? Are we sure about that? Now I'm not intending to start a revolution with this comment but could it be possible that we might just be one of God's little experiments.............?

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Old 24-11-2007, 10:51 PM
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Re: On another planet.

I'm not sure about this one. To my way of thinking the creator, whoever it was, would have been wise enough not to make the same mistake twice !!!
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Old 25-11-2007, 06:26 AM
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I'm not sure about this one. To my way of thinking the creator, whoever it was, would have been wise enough not to make the same mistake twice !!!


So maybe there's a different 'experiment' going on somewhere else..........

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Old 25-11-2007, 10:58 AM
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Now I'm not intending to start a revolution with this comment but could it be possible that we might just be one of God's little experiments.............?

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Old 25-11-2007, 01:34 PM
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Old 25-11-2007, 02:14 PM
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Re: On another planet.

Yes I believe there are other lifeforms - look at the variety on this planet, it's wonderful, all adapted to their own ways, so why not on hotter or colder planets, we are only the tip of the iceberg and yes I believe in God as the Creator.

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Re: On another planet.

Lets hope if life does exist out there on some far away world that it treats both its planet and fellow occupants with lots more respect than we do!!!!!!
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Old 25-11-2007, 04:07 PM
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Re: On another planet.

Well everywhere scientists have said life cant exist have each in turn yeilded life:
The sea floor
In hot springs
a mile under the surface in rock!

The rule seems to be where ever there is liquid water there is life - so theres a good chance theres some microbes on mars near the poles, probaly underground.

And thats just carbon based life. Non-carbon based life opens up a whole load of possiblities....
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