UFO's, Big cats - Coverups ?

[Mr Mag00]

there was a change in the licence laws in believe in the 80's? and people were required to register and be inspected so many were released. the number 270 known releases comes to mind for some reason, any one got more info on this, could google 'spose!

[mh68]

Originally Posted by Mr Mag00

there was a change in the licence laws in believe in the 80's? and people were required to register and be inspected so many were released. the number 270 known releases comes to mind for some reason, any one got more info on this, could google 'spose!

Info about the dangerous animals act and other UK big cat stuff below....

www.ukbigcats.co.uk - The Definitive Guide To UK Big Cats

As well as the released pets, there have been cases of alien species being imported for hunting purposes, at least one being discovered in captivity prior to being released to be hunted.

Mark H

[hannahpanda]

"The cats now present in the British Isles are by now, second, third and possibly even fourth generation offspring from the first illegally released specimens. The first big cats to be seen in the open countryside of the British Isles were probably escapees from our Colonial forefathers who brought back thier exotic souveniers from the far flung corners of the Empire. There have been numerous escapees from zoos and circuses over the years. The majority of the original cats stock released into the British countryside came about when the Dangerous Wild Animals Act came into being in 1976"

Just taken that from Big Cats UK

[greenyonder]

Originally Posted by stripee

There is supposed to be a big cat living near me known as "the Black Beast", I was thinking about it last night when I was out in the woods in the dark. What I would do if it turned up, well I could hit it with my stick, or run or else succumb and get eaten When I was a little kid I used to think I could get eaten by lions too fortunately not a huge threat in the UK. As for UFOs well they could be out there...in the US some (quite alot of)people believe that aliens could abduct them and have taken out insurance

firstly if you were sure there "IS" a big cat in woods nearby you, and secondly, then what were you doing out there?,and at night!!!,but i suppose there is one consolation,.....a big cat will always kill its prey first,....before eating it!!!

[mh68]

Originally Posted by greenyonder

but i suppose there is one consolation,.....a big cat will always kill its prey first,....before eating it!!!

I beg to differ on that Greenyonder, there is footage on the `net if you search taken from filming the Big Cat Diaries which was unshown on tv.....showing prey being devoured while still alive and kicking.

Mark H

[greenyonder]

Originally Posted by mh68

I beg to differ on that Greenyonder, there is footage on the `net if you search taken from filming the Big Cat Diaries which was unshown on tv.....showing prey being devoured while still alive and kicking.

Mark H

thanks!,must bear that in mind!,but please remember,........"if you go down to the woods today",lol.

[mh68]

I was in the woods today.....and after this thread, developed an obsession with looking behind me every once in a while

Mark H

[honeybee]

Originally Posted by CurreHound

Well to date there is a lot more evidence for UFO's and alien big cats than for Saddam's WMD's.
Seems we pick and choose what we mean by proof.

I have put a link with interesting evidence on in my introduction thread.

But I have seen several large black cats in a huge nearby forest. Problem is I don't tend to carry my camera on horseback and that is generally the only way they will get relatively near. Same with deer. Regularly ride among a herd of deer without them batting an eyelid. Have also seen Red Deer there and they aren't supposed to be there either. My horse isn't so keen on getting close to him.
A Quantox Hunt had a lynx up a tree a few years back.
The trllech panther is our local one and I don't know many country folk who haven't seen it: because there are almost certainly more than one over a huge expanse of monmouthshire and forest Of Dean.
A few cases of rotting dog carcasses up trees too.

Smell. They have a strong scent.

The problem is that the few "official" investigators haven't found hard evidence. But that doesn't stop live and dead spcimens turning up from time to time. The Surrey Puma for example.

I think UFO's may have a variety of causes. Some natural phenomena we don't yet understand. There is lots of evidence of sightings, pics etc that have been shown not to be fraudulent. The issue is whether that means they are space vehicles or not. A more likely explanation would be inter dimensional vehicles; or "natural" inter dimensional traffic. If that sounds far fetched please tell me why this is being done at a cost of £6 billion. That isn't scientific curiosity.
BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | Underground search for 'God particle'

Worth remembering in all this that the legendary "wild man of the jungle" who would stand up in the bush and beat his chest, was refuted by science for years. Then he turned up in the late 1800s and science called him the Gorilla.

Science dosn't know a fraction of what is out there in terms of wild life. I can take you to parts of Wales where they swear there are dragons. They shut up about it when strangers come as they know they will be ridiculed.

A horse would react quite strongly if it smelt a big cat. Where I used to live there was an old Major who'd been in India and whenever his horse shyed or bolted off he'd say "tiger in the grass".
There has been a lot of big cat evidence. I do think a lot gets hushed up and there are obviously a lot of false sightings which doesn't help. In glos a police man was asigned the duty of looking into big cat sightings as we were having so many.

[greenyonder]

with all these stories,do most people know what a big cat looks like?,and if they are true, then one day we will have a bigger problem than we think!,because sooner or later we will be on the big cats menue!,but i think not,i would say most are telling porkie pies!,which is a big shame for the likes of people like me & you,who have an "addictive"interest in it!!! ALL IN FAVOUR!!!.

[greenyonder]

Originally Posted by mh68

I was in the woods today.....and after this thread, developed an obsession with looking behind me every once in a while

Mark H

yes, but be carefull.....mind you dont walk into a tree!,then you would become a victim of your own fears!!!,and dont stop going to them woods either! lol.

[mh68]

Nah no chance of that....i`d love to bump into one (not literally though!! )....

Mark H

[greenyonder]

Originally Posted by mh68

Nah no chance of that....i`d love to bump into one (not literally though!! )....

Mark H

do i detect a spot of "tree hugging" coming on!!!

[mh68]

No ,I meant bumping into a big cat, not a tree!!

Mark H

[greenyonder]

Originally Posted by mh68

No ,I meant bumping into a big cat, not a tree!!

Mark H

LOL,& LOL,& LOL.!!!!!!!!!!!!

[greenyonder]

Originally Posted by mh68

The concensus of the info on uk big cats is that theyre unlikely to attack unless cornered with no escape route, so odds on, in a wood,they would have a means of escape without confrontation.On the other hand if you cornered a Puma in the alley by the back gate while putting the rubbish out and it has to pass you to escape....thats the time to worry
It would still be unnerving to see an animal of this kind, with the capability to hunt and kill you should it so choose,regardless of the situation in which you saw it.Well it would to me anyway...

Mark H

yes your right, it is unnerving when you come across one!,but its also very?.....how can i say,unreal in a way,because you know it shouldnt be there!,and neither should you!,especialy when you make eye contact with the animal!,its almost an intoxicating expierience in a sence because you go all weak at the knees!,and i think if you wanted to run you couldnt!,its a real addrenalin rush i can tell you!,but i suppose i could get used to it!!!.

[Paul mabbott]

I'm not a quantum physicist by a long chalk but I don't see anything wrong or unscientific with this ....

Originally Posted by CurreHound

............ If that sounds far fetched please tell me why this is being done at a cost of £6 billion. That isn't scientific curiosity.
BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | Underground search for 'God particle'

[hannahpanda]

If i came across one I'd be fasinated but....wouldnt want to get too close

[Paul mabbott]

I don't understand a basic premise of this thread - why would anyone want to cover up the presence of large felines? where reports have been made these have been investigated (not necessarily with much conviction or efficiency perhaps). What would be the reason for covering this up?
We had a tiger in our allotments in Leyton some years back - it was pretty easy to see and the authorities did take immediate action ... fortunately. Why would other cat reports be covered up?

[greenyonder]

Originally Posted by hannahpanda

Alot of big cats were kept as pets in the past and some escaped or were set lose when the owner got bored/couldnt look after them anymore.. so ive been told anyway

yes your right,and people still do the same today,......with puppies,and the like!,discard them like broken or useless objects!,it was the same princibles with big cats!.totally repulsive never the less!.

[mh68]

The most common suggestion is to avoid a panic situation Paul.....but your guess is as good as mine....I posted this link in the thread Paul referred to in his first post on here.....

Big cat monitors. The UK website dedicated to big cat sightings.

Hope its ok with the mods to repost the link again here?

Mark H

[greenyonder]

Originally Posted by Paul mabbott

I don't understand a basic premise of this thread - why would anyone want to cover up the presence of large felines? where reports have been made these have been investigated (not necessarily with much conviction or efficiency perhaps). What would be the reason for covering this up?
We had a tiger in our allotments in Leyton some years back - it was pretty easy to see and the authorities did take immediate action ... fortunately. Why would other cat reports be covered up?

perhaps their not big enough to create concern!,but let me tell you a leopard,puma,panther,.which is basicly a black leopard,are all equaly capable of causing as much death and destuction as a tiger,lion,in their own right!,but yes your right,if it were the latter two that were loose it would be a different storie!!!.

[Dogghound]

Originally Posted by mh68

Its a catch 22 situation really Doug. Currehound has mentioned having a pic of one.....but (and I agree with him) he wont show it or submit it for fear of the animal being killed.Had he submitted the pic as evidence to their existence chances are the pic still wouldnt have seen the light of day for fear of panic.So its no surprise that there is a lack of hard evidence....

Mark H

Mark H

There is a lack of hard evidence because there is none. Ive yet to see any hard evidence of a cat photo thats not distant or blurred, scats, a good print. Someone saying they have a photo of a black cat means very little, there are plenty of people who are less wildlife friendly out there that would want a large predator dead so it doesnt kill livestock attack people, im sure plenty of farmers and game keepers would'nt keep it quiet. And if you did have a good photo and didnt want the cat hurt then why not just keep tthe location secret

[mh68]

Originally Posted by Dogghound

There is a lack of hard evidence because there is none. Ive yet to see any hard evidence of a cat photo thats not distant or blurred, scats, a good print. Someone saying they have a photo of a black cat means very little, there are plenty of people who are less wildlife friendly out there that would want a large predator dead so it doesnt kill livestock attack people, im sure plenty of farmers and game keepers would'nt keep it quiet. And if you did have a good photo and didnt want the cat hurt then why not just keep tthe location secret

It doesnt matter how much effort you put into keeping a location quiet someone will either recognise the place, or go out of their way to find it.The only truly successful way of keeping the true location secret is not showing the pic in the first place. I`d do the same should i get a daylight Badger pic for example,if it were possible the shot would give the location of a sett away.

Mark H

[therealbobbo]

Sadly our poor puma met his maker,i guess in the early seventies,then he got ressurected,a few years later,then dissappeared again.At the time,you were nobody,if you didn't see it,hear it,or your dog didn't nearly die of fright!
Sadly,I am nobody,bobbo: