Dog Breeds banned from council houses

[JoanB]

There are worse things than dogs, I suppose ....
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[eeyore]

Originally Posted by JoanB

There are worse things than dogs, I suppose ....
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very true - in 2005 a dublin police firearms team kicked down a drug dealers door only to be confronted by a bengal tiger ! - unfortunately they hadn't come prepared to deal with tigers and had to shoot it dead.

[Gill Catton]

Originally Posted by eeyore

very true - in 2005 a dublin police firearms team kicked down a drug dealers door only to be confronted by a bengal tiger ! - unfortunately they hadn't come prepared to deal with tigers and had to shoot it dead.

yes and whats even more depressing is that they reckon (can't remember who 'they' were though) that there are more tigers in captivity in the States than there ar left in the wild

[demicav]

Originally Posted by Tormentil

How will "tagging" a dog prevent dogs from attacking people ?



What will?? Tagging dogs ?. Is it only dogs that are owned by "druggies and criminals" that attack people? I don't think so.

My point is, druggies and criminals already feel they're above the law so they are more likely to flout it. Dogs are leverage to these people, if one gets destroyed, so what, they will get another. Decent people are more likely to respect the law, even if their dog is trained and owned responsibly. Any dog is can bite. What's interesting is that many people don't realise that Staffies were the original fighting dog, even before pit bulls and even now many have a split personality. They can be great with people yet turn on a dog in an instant. I think they're lovely in the right hands. Many cases of attack come from dogs that are not properly controlled, dogs used as status symbols or from people that didn't realise what they were taking on, they didn't do their homework beforehand, big problem. I would like to see more laws targetting pet owners, not automatically banning certain breeds. People get bitten by many different breeds of dog, so this law won't really protect people.

Sorry for the late reply, been away for 2 weeks, now playing catch up .

[medieval knievel]

i hadn't heard anything about the proposal to ban these breeds from public parks; i don't know how seriously that is being contemplated. re the dogs, i've yet to see an irish council house with a big enough garden to raise a dog of the size of an alsatian.

[Adam Cheeseman]

Originally Posted by mrs fish

Well I live in council house and my dog is a staff/jack russell cross


I think certain breeds should be should be kept on leads on parks or public places, my dog and I were attacked by two rottis, it was horrible and if one of my children had of been walking the dog they would of been seriously injured or killed.

The council are liable I would think for dogs that attack from their propertys.

It is on tenancies about pets.

Under the CRoW Act 2000 all dogs have to be on a lead in the countryside at all times (not including specific dog exercise areas) between 1st March and 31st July on a lead no longer than 2m.

Many breeds are kept as status symbols and if you go round your average council estate it's amazing how many bull terriers there are and that the owners all look similar to each other.

In the borough where I work it is a bye-law that all dogs have to be on leash in public areas.

Cheers,

Adam

[nightshade]

Originally Posted by Boddie

I heard this last week when in Ireland. Rhodesian Ridgeback was even on the list

A local man had a Ridgeback,used to chase cats and kill them

[Ambriel]

OK how about this to add to the discussion:

Should the keeping of *all* breeds of dog or cat be banned for tenants of council houses?

Private landlords are perfectly entitled not to permit their tenants to keep pets, so why shouldn't the council also have this right as a landlord?

If tenants were to flout this restriction of their tenancy agreement then first time a warning second time eviction.

Just wondered what other people thought.

[stripee]

What this is all about is anti social behaviour and sometimes inconsiderate or insensitive behaviour to other people by a minority unfortunately for the dogs. If you own a nice little (or big dog) and it is under control and it doesn't bark all night long or poo on the pavement or attack anyone there is no problem.
I have complained about a large dog to the council dog warden which chases me and snarls and growls on my property my neighbour makes no attempt to stop it. The council say they will come and remove it, no problem. However, I don't really want to go that far at present, so I have asked her to keep it (and her other 6 large dogs which bark at night and mean another neighbour has to sleep with her windows shut) under control, and will see how it goes. The council told me that if a dog is "out of control in a public place, or on private land where it has no permission to be" then it doesn't actually have to bite someone, just be intimidating, and the dog warden has powers to remove it. If a dog bites someone then the police can be involved and the dog could be destroyed.

[medieval knievel]

it's a bit further north than dublin, but there's a story in the news today about two rottweilers attacking a young girl in the north.
as far as i'm concerned, protests of 'my rottweiler is an angel' are like people who are 80 and claim smoking isn't bad for you, because they're still alive.

[emmz]

I think that it depends on how the dog is raised. At the end of the day, they are like children. You have to teach them, love them, feed them, and yes tell them off.

My daughter has 3 children & large dog,( one breed which is not favoured at all) She is a totally fantasic dog, totally mad asfar as wanting to play or greet someone, but again just like a child, they need loving and a secure home.

I signed the petition.
emmz

[medieval knievel]

Originally Posted by emmz

My daughter has 3 children & large dog,( one breed which is not favoured at all) She is a totally fantasic dog, totally mad asfar as wanting to play or greet someone, but again just like a child, they need loving and a secure home.

but one dog is not proof of the behaviour of a breed.

[emmz]

Yes, that is true & there is that "instinct" with all dogs, many that were originally bred for fighting and to be dangerous, but is that not similarity regarding ourselves.

Way back when, humans survived how they only knew how.The fact that some dogs are said to have that "inbuilt" instinct, be it attacking or the likes, can happen am fraid.
There are many that should never own a dog the way they are treat, but I do beleive that when a dog attacks and usually with real bad ending to the victim, then could it not be the owners fault.

I spose that my daughter is lucky that her dog has always had this sort of personality as such, and another family up her road have the sister to her one, which is also very docile.

I read the papers and see the horror stories of dogs attacking children and my heart goes out to them, the dog is put to sleep, but does not anyone, take into account, the reason why the dog did this?

It is very sad, as many "bad named" dogs can be more tamer than a tiny dog.

emmz

[aestarte]

Talk about 'give a dog a bad name' it's terrible. What about the old folk whose only permanent companion is thier dog which just happens to be one of those listed. I own a German Shepherd and he is the most beatiful dog I have ever known. People ought to prioritise problems and i think this one will come quite low on the list but for everything be it sport, leisure, pets or anything there will always be someone to spoil it and give it a bad name and the innocents have to pay the price. Fi. X X X X