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21-12-2011, 06:28 AM
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| | | Is this a false widow?
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21-12-2011, 06:31 AM
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| | | Re: Is this a false widow?
Steatoda sp of some sort I should think. Spider specialists will help you when they arrive.
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21-12-2011, 07:05 AM
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hi welcome to WAB  it looks like a Steatoda but could be a Meta
where did you find it? im going to say Steatoda grossa
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21-12-2011, 07:14 AM
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Looks more like S. nobilis than anything else. Not the best photo I'm afraid. What size is the spider?
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21-12-2011, 08:29 AM
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Good morning,
Thanks for the suggestions. I too saw photos of steatoda nobilis & thought it looked similar, but I'm no expert & I was only comparing photos. Sorry about the quality of the photo, I don't have much of a macro.
This one's not very big really - I'd guess a total length (head to bum) of about 10mm
I have got another one who hides in a crack in my conservatory which must be at least 15-18mm in body length, but it's a shy creature & only tends to come out at night. |
21-12-2011, 08:52 AM
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Scrap the last message re: size. I've just had another look & it's only about 6-8mm bodylength.
I've taken another photo if it helps.  |
21-12-2011, 09:02 AM
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Second photo is clearer, I'll stick with Steatoda nobilis.
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21-12-2011, 11:22 AM
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agreed can see the band now
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21-12-2011, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by John_M  Second photo is clearer, I'll stick with Steatoda nobilis. | I agree with John. s.nobilis, presumably a male or sub-adult from the sizing. Adult females are a fair bit larger ~ 15mm. |
21-12-2011, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by faz agreed can see the band now | If you mean the white band around the front of the abdomen - most Steatoda have this mark. Its the markings on the centre of the adbomen that differ from s. grossa (though they may be faint or absent in either species)
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