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07-10-2011, 11:16 AM
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| | Geographical Distribution of Pholcus Phalangioides A little while ago I read something in a (admittedly not very detailed) insect book which suggested that Pholcus spiders were common in the south of UK but not the north. Living in Oxford, I have many of them in the house and outbuildings so accepted that this may well be accurate - whilst also being aware that the insect book was not particularly detailed or spider-specific.
However, two things have caused me to doubt the veracity of the statement. My parents have two houses. One is in the Midlands, Staffordshire in fact, and I observed a Pholcus above their front door on a visit not long ago. The other house is in Dumfries and Galloway and whilst visiting last week, I observed a good-sized Pholcus specimen in the kitchen.
Since the assertion that they are a southern species was made to me by a colleague yesterday, i'm now throroughly confused!
Anyone have any thoughts? I did wonder whether I had perhaps introduced the individuals to both locations myself on clothing or luggage but I'm not certain. The D&G specimen seemed well established and I have not been to that house for over a year!
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07-10-2011, 11:59 AM
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| | | Re: Geographical Distribution of Pholcus Phalangioides they do appear to be more common in the South, but are present further north see the distribution map here The Checklist of British Spiders - British Arachnological Society
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07-10-2011, 12:35 PM
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| | | Re: Geographical Distribution of Pholcus Phalangioides Thank you - that clears that up. Although it's interesting that that site refers to them by the common name "Cobweb spider" a name I have only previously come across in relation to Tegenaria sp.
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07-10-2011, 01:21 PM
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| | | Re: Geographical Distribution of Pholcus Phalangioides Common names aren't always reliable. Pholcus phalangioides for example has been labelled as the Cobweb Spider, Dady-Long-Legs Spider, Skull Spider......
That's the reason the binominal (Latin) name is so important
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07-10-2011, 01:22 PM
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| | | Re: Geographical Distribution of Pholcus Phalangioides This species is definitely established, even common, here in the Trent Valley (Derbyshire/Leicestershire border)
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07-10-2011, 02:03 PM
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| | | Re: Geographical Distribution of Pholcus Phalangioides Quote:
Originally Posted by sebastianbawn Common names aren't always reliable. Pholcus phalangioides for example has been labelled as the Cobweb Spider, Dady-Long-Legs Spider, Skull Spider......
That's the reason the binominal (Latin) name is so important | I've also heard it called the "Cellar spider" - another name which could refer to more than one species. I tend to stick to the Latin myself!
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08-10-2011, 08:48 PM
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| | | Re: Geographical Distribution of Pholcus Phalangioides Probably one of the most synanthropic species in the UK, I reckon and one that has rapidly moved northwards in the last few decades. Cellar spider is the more usual common name in my experience.
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11-10-2011, 11:42 AM
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| | | Re: Geographical Distribution of Pholcus Phalangioides "Synanthropic" ? Can I have a definition please?
PS - never mind I've just Dictionary.com searched it.
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15-10-2011, 05:46 PM
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| | | Re: Geographical Distribution of Pholcus Phalangioides Synanthropic indeed, and a sneaky hitch hiker. I spotted a large specimen in the car whilst we were driving to Dorset today - thankfully we hadn't gone to dip red-tailed robin in Suffolk, so it only got to move a county.. but potentially it could have been transported the length and breadth of the country.
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