Couple of IDs

[Lester]

I know IDing spider from pictures is a big ask even with clear shots, but can someone give me some sort of ID for these two.

Spider A View 1


Spider A View 2


This next one was running up my arm whilst I was trying to shoot him with a 180mm macro lens thus the poor views, cute little chap though
Spider B view 1


Spider B view 2 (gets some of the abdominal markings in DOF)


Thanks

[aeshna5]

1 is Larinioides cornutus- often on plants near water, but not exclusively.

[frits_b]

nr 2 looks like a young Pirata piraticus. Did you find it near water? Pirata's hunt on water.

[Lester]

Originally Posted by aeshna5

1 is Larinioides cornutus- often on plants near water, but not exclusively.

Originally Posted by frits_b

nr 2 looks like a young Pirata piraticus. Did you find it near water? Pirata's hunt on water.

Wow, thanks, you have excelled!

Yes they were both near water, Thursley NNR in fact.

Interestingly just after having returned my interloper Pirata piraticus to the bush he must of jumped from I saw what I took fora baby Raft (Fishing) Spider, dolomedes fimbriatus sneaking up on some pond-skaters. He changed his mind however and returned to the bank - the skaters were probably bigger than him! Would have been some good shots though - ho hum.