Spider - Tegenaria parietina maybe?

[diggleken]

Very tentative with this Tegenaria parietina possibly - grateful for any help - I dont know my spiders but thought I'd have a stab!
Found in a remote house, in cold weather near both woodland and grass, size about 2 to 3 cm across.
Hopefully there's enough detail in the pic........................
Cheers
Ken

[diggleken]

Awwhhh,
come on spidermen....................or is it that bad a pic!
Cheers
Ken

[Geoff F]

Tegenaria species are notoriously difficult to separate without a freshly dead specimen, a microscope and a lot of skill.

Therefore most amateur spider identifers will be reluctant to say more than 'yes possibly'. T. parientina, duellica, saeva, atrica and domestica are all virtually identical from a photograph and inhabit houses.

In theory T. parientina has slightly longer legs and does seem to prefer old and abandoned buildings instead of living side by side with people. But that is just a generality.

All of which may explain some reluctance for anybody to be the first to commit themselves here.

But perhaps one of our real experts can add a bit more detail.

[SusieBee]

Hi Ken I posted similar querry last Autumn....Lots of info that maybe of interest to you...

Huge Tegenaria sp?

I recently managed to get pic of sternum as some are said to have distinctive patterns to help id sp. I'm chuffed it made it through our harsh winter.

Nice pic by the way

[frits_b]

Looking at the abdomen, I tend to think it's less likely to be a T. parietina than one of the other species mentioned (atrica, domestica, etc). T. parietina has a rather more distinctive abdominal pattern, which is often yellowish, sometimes reddish.
But, like Geoff mentioned, Tegenarias are hard to determine without closeup pics of the reproductive organs.

[diggleken]

Thanks everyone, difficulty understood - I was just pleased to get to Tegenaria, never mind species!
Good link too Susie, thanks a lot, it all helps a beginner.
Cheers
Ken

[richardunord]

Hello,
This Tegenaria is not a parietina but well Tegenaria of group atrica (atrica-saeva-duellica).
T.parietina have six spots around the cephalo and striped leggs... (see my blog)
Regards,
Richard
Araignées de Waterloo et forêt de Soignes...

[No.9 Spider]

Hi Ken, T. parietina is still a southerly species unfortunately.

http://www.britishspiders.org.uk/ukm...0000008839.gif

Specimens when adult will often have legspans of 125mm (5").