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03-11-2009, 02:45 PM
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Having a stab at families 1-2-3 Agelenidae........ 4-5-6 Lyniphidae.
Bit of Palp waving by the two males, fun to watch as one turned tail and run.
Col
Ps sizes 1.... 5-6mm, 2....3 7-9mm, 4-5-6.... 3-5mm 
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03-11-2009, 05:08 PM
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1 - Amaurobius sp.
2 and 3 - Tegenaria sp.
4,5 & 6 - Linyphiidae, possibly Lepthyphantes/Neriene.
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03-11-2009, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by No.9 Spider  1 - Amaurobius sp.
2 and 3 - Tegenaria sp.
4,5 & 6 - Linyphiidae, possibly Lepthyphantes/Neriene.
No.9 Spider | Thanks
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03-11-2009, 10:38 PM
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4-5-6 possible Lepthyphantes minutus maybe worth considering. Lepthyphantes minutus photos and info
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From what I can see on the photos, I'd say it's not L.minutus. (I can only see 1 spine on metatarsus I, though I can't say that for sure 100%)
Look especially at leg spines on Linyphiidae - they're a tricky bunch.
You might find this useful: Family Linyphiidae
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04-11-2009, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Venger From what I can see on the photos, I'd say it's not L.minutus. (I can only see 1 spine on metatarsus I, though I can't say that for sure 100%)
Look especially at leg spines on Linyphiidae - they're a tricky bunch.
You might find this useful: Family Linyphiidae | Not to mention 'tricobothria'  , they can take some spotting with a microscope!
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Cheers Venger & No.9 Spider......... Raised a chuckle in the link at the top......'(for advanced and experts only!)'. That ruled me out straight away,  
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Well, better photos for a start
I can see 2 spines on metatarsus I (second pic, possibly 3 it's hard to tell)
As for the patella spine, its hard to say (they can be thick and also not quite so thick, in comparison to spines) http://www.jorgenlissner.dk/images%5...5874_25336.JPG
Good images here for verification: Photo Gallery Arachnida
In all probability - its L.minutus - but I'd need to see it under a microscope.
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Thanks Venger
No.1 Amaurobius similis Has a thin curved apophysis on the palpal tibia visible.......again in Collins Spiders of B & N.Europe.
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