2 spiders for Id

sebastianbawn · #1 (**permalink**) 24-09-2009, 08:37 PM

Have shown these before and had a few guesses, was just looking for some more opinions. Pic one found on a sea wall, approx 2-3mm. Second on the bank of a reservoir, approx 5-7mm?

Pic 3 was found on a wall near a reservoir in Devon. Approx 3mm

frits_b · #2 (**permalink**) 24-09-2009, 09:01 PM

Hm, difficult. Number one looks like Linyphiidae, number three looks a little like Pachygnatha degeeri, but it's hard to tell from the photo. Size fits the species anyway...

sebastianbawn · #3 (**permalink**) 24-09-2009, 09:22 PM

Whilst searching I came across Steatoda albomaculata which shares some similarities?

frits_b · #4 (**permalink**) 24-09-2009, 10:11 PM

Personally, I think it matches P. degeeri better; that species is quite common and widespread; the S. albomaculata is rare in the uk (ony occuring here and there in the south) according to my literature (which doesn't mean it couldn't be one of course)

wildherbalian85 · #5 (**permalink**) 25-09-2009, 06:07 AM

Body shape and patter of number three resemble Steatoda albomaculata more then they do Pachygnatha degeeri. But.... i am not saying it is Steatoda albomaculata as from this picture it is hard to make a decent call on that, but i am happy from looking at extensive pictures online of both spiders that this is not Pachygnatha degeeri.

As for it being rare in literature well.... from the few books i have seen that actually have the likes of Steatoda Nobilis in them

They state that it too s rare...