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17-09-2006, 10:39 PM
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| | | 2 unknown spiders
Hi Folks
Took a couple of pictures of two different spiders while out near clumber park today, although it took ages to get even these as my macro doesn't seem to like focusing on spiders.  
Just don't somebody tell me they are both garden spiders as if they are I'm taking my camera and going home... 
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17-09-2006, 10:46 PM
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| | | Re: 2 unknown spiders
errrr I think the second one is............ 
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18-09-2006, 07:53 AM
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| | | Re: 2 unknown spiders
The first looks like Tetragnatha sp. (possibly Tetragnatha extensia?).
The second maybe one of the Crab spiders. They change colour to suit the plant they're on. |
18-09-2006, 08:16 AM
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| | | Re: 2 unknown spiders
The first is Metallina sp., a highly variable genus.
The second is a pale Araneus sp., possibly a spotless A. quadratus.
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18-09-2006, 09:11 PM
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Quote:
The first is Metallina sp., a highly variable genus.
The second is a pale Araneus sp., possibly a spotless A. quadratus.
| I have looked these up in my spider pocket guide, which does show a metellina segmentata and a araneus quadratus, and I have checked this site, and while the body shapes of the spiders do seem to match the colouring doesn't.
Is it usual for spiders of the same species to have different colourings 
And at least they were not house/garden spiders  |
19-09-2006, 07:57 AM
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Is it usual for spiders of the same species to have different colourings?
| It is quite common. If you look back over the spider-related threads (the ones that aren't Wasp spiders) you will see several Metallina sp. pics, each is slightly different. Enoplognatha ovata is another common spider well known for having a number of colour forms. Araneus diadematus (another spider the second pic may be) has a fairly consistent colour pattern, but can be very pale to very dark. The crab spider Misumenia vatia can change it's colour (usually white, pink or yellow) over time depending on the colour of flower it's sitting on.
Colour isn't usually a reliable aid to identification (except for things like wasp spiders, of course!)
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