Spiders for ID please

[PeterD]

Posted this in the general thread but probably better posted here.
Spider 1


Spider 2


Spider 1 colouring was a surprise. Any help would be gratefully received.

Sorry - seen yesterday on Portsdown Hill, Portchester.

Thanks

Peter

[Geoff F]

That is certainly something of a surprise. Any radio active waste in the area!

The general appearance of the first spider suggests Clubiona sp. to me, possibly Gnaphosa as an alternative. Any indication of size?

I can only suggest that is a freak colour and it has found some suitable flowers on which to hide. I know some spiders, like the crab spiders, can change colour but I can't think of anything which looks suitable as a match.

The last spider is also puzzling me, which isn't difficult to do! Somehow, I think we have had a similar question before but I can't remember the answer. Some of the Linyphiidae species have similar colouration and abdominal shape

And a few Araneidae have odd colours but the abdomen of your specimen looks a bit too narrow for me.

I will have another browse through my books later; unless one of our experts comes to the rescue beforehand.

[PeterD]

Thanks Geoff,
The body size (excluding legs) was about 5mm for both spiders. Glad I am not alone being surprised by the colour of spider1. I only noticed it when taking images of plants. It certainly was well hidden in amongst the flower buds.
Peter

[PeterD]

Another spider for ID please.

Again about 5mm (excluding legs). Langstone Harbour, Hampshire.


If anyone can shed further light on the other submission in this thread, it would be greatly appreciated.

Peter

[No.9 Spider]

Spider 2 is possibly a male Mangora acalypha?

No.9 Spider

Originally Posted by PeterD

Posted this in the general thread but probably better posted here.
Spider 1


Spider 2


Spider 1 colouring was a surprise. Any help would be gratefully received.

Sorry - seen yesterday on Portsdown Hill, Portchester.

Thanks

Peter

[PeterD]

Thanks. These seem to be giving a lot of problems to ID.

Peter

[Geoff F]

Remember, Peter, spiders were designed to be difficult to identify!

Don't think I would ever have worked out that last one. Appears to be mainly a southern species in this country.

[monkeypoo]

They both look almost exotic to me. The 1st one I see a lot in my back garden when I'm pulling up weeds but never that colour. Purse Web spider or something like that.

[Meta menardi]

Originally Posted by monkeypoo

They both look almost exotic to me. The 1st one I see a lot in my back garden when I'm pulling up weeds but never that colour. Purse Web spider or something like that.

Purse web spider when searched for returns Atypus affinus. Doesn't seem likely. Using these recently invented common names are like finding your way through Manchester using a map of the moon.

[PeterD]

Thanks all. Still a mystery then. I must say that I have not seen another spider the colour of spider 1.
Peter