Steatoda nobilis?

[garlicpickle]

Found 3 of these in various corners of my porch last night when hunting for Segestria florentina. I *think* it is S. nobilis, but can anyone confirm please?

[wildherbalian85]

Looks like a steatoda nobilis to me.... hint try the outside walls and fences for florentinas

[garlicpickle]

It's an outside porch, and I've seen florentinas there before (they scare the willies out of me actually even since I found one in bed with me one night!)

There was no sign of any tell-tale tripwires though which would have indicated florentina There's plenty in my husband's shed though.

[wildherbalian85]

I don't like them... they give me the creeps

This one >>>>>



>>>> lives in the brick work on my neighbors side of the alley, the alley is very narrow and seperates our houses. Anyway i used to put my bike in the alley on a night time and this perticular spider often enjoyed going for a stroll, many a time i got the fright of my life to find it head hight on the wall 6inch from face, or another time it was next to the padlock and i didn't notice until my hand got dangerously close.

[garlicpickle]

They do look pretty fearsome, my husband got bitten by one when he was ejecting it from his shed, and he said it really hurt!

[naturegirl]

Just prey that you don't react to venom like I do with 'Anaphylactic shock' !!!

It is not nice to react in this way and has an impact to your everyday life inasmuch as where you go, what you do, how far away from help are you, etc....

Naturegirl

[garlicpickle]

Never been bitten by one, Naturegirl, but hopefully I won't have to find out the hard way! Good job most of our native spids don't bite too readily.

[wildherbalian85]

Originally Posted by garlicpickle

Never been bitten by one, Naturegirl, but hopefully I won't have to find out the hard way! Good job most of our native spids don't bite too readily.

Nobilis and Grossa can potentially deliver a quite toxic level of venom when they bite, though not deadly. Florentinas don't really have a very toxic bit but it is known to be painful and often drawing blood.

[Venger]

Generally classed as Steatodism
The clinical presentation of Steatoda bites was characterized by moderate to severe regional pain (26%), with a mean duration of six hours, and systemic effects in 30%, notably nausea, headache, malaise, and lethargy.
THE GLOBAL EPIDEMIOLOGY, SYNDROMIC CLASSIFICATION, MANAGEMENT, AND PREVENTION OF SPIDER BITES by JAMES H. DIAZ
However - bites are very rare and are always in self defense (they have poor eyesite and won't bite at a drop of a hat - they aren't an aggressive spider and as you can see from the results only a quarter - ish were moderate or severe - it depends how much venom was used)

[wildherbalian85]

Originally Posted by Venger

Generally classed as Steatodism
The clinical presentation of Steatoda bites was characterized by moderate to severe regional pain (26%), with a mean duration of six hours, and systemic effects in 30%, notably nausea, headache, malaise, and lethargy.
THE GLOBAL EPIDEMIOLOGY, SYNDROMIC CLASSIFICATION, MANAGEMENT, AND PREVENTION OF SPIDER BITES by JAMES H. DIAZ
However - bites are very rare and are always in self defense (they have poor eyesite and won't bite at a drop of a hat - they aren't an aggressive spider and as you can see from the results only a quarter - ish were moderate or severe - it depends how much venom was used)

Thanks venger

note: florentinas are aggressive spiders.