2 Spider IDs

[Zoundz]

I should probably know these, I have no doubt at all that they are incredibly common, but I don't know names of many spiders at all (read any spiders!) and was curious!

Very small spider


Very scary leggy spider!


xx

[Ukwildlifeo]

I think the second one is a daddy longlegs spider (Im guessing the legs go on a lot further than the photo shows!)

[squishy]

i'm still very new to araneology, so this is just a guess really, but maybe a Pholcus genus from the family Pholcidae ? (for the lower one)

[Zoundz]

oooooooh yes! they are sooooo long! :|

Daddy longlegs! that's what we used to call craneflies when i was a kid! Does anyone know it's scientific name?

xx

[squishy]

that is the common name for the genus i suggested

[Zoundz]

Originally Posted by squishy

i'm still very new to araneology, so this is just a guess really, but maybe a Pholcus genus from the family Pholcidae ? (for the lower one)

that's helped a lot - as has the post above you - it's a daddy long legs or cellar spider - Pholcus phalangioides



xx

[Zoundz]

Originally Posted by squishy

that is the common name for the genus i suggested

sorry - didn't see your post when i posted!

xx

[squishy]

most probably! unless it is the other species (P. opilionoides), but that is not a common occurrence in the British isles

[Geoff F]

How small is the first spider? Is it indoors? Difficult to ID without being able to clearly see the leg lengths.

Guessing from the background, if it is indoors, my first thought is possibly Zygiella x-notata but they are medium sized, around 4 or 5 mm nose to tail for males and a bit bigger for females.

If it is smaller than that I would guess one of the 'money spiders' Linyphiidae family, but it would be impossible to get much further from that photo.

If outside, it will be time to think again.

I suspect this will prove to be a struggle to get a 100% ID even from one of our experts.

[Zoundz]

I suspect your first guess may be right, it was about that size, and indoors

xx