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10-10-2008, 04:11 PM
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| | | False Widow Spider
I think my son may have found a false widow spider. It was under are washing machine and it looked liked no other spider I normally see in our house. I contacted environmental health, who forwarded me to pest control. When I described the spider he confirmed it could be a false widow. Can anyone ID the spider from the pic. Thank you. | 
10-10-2008, 04:22 PM
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10-10-2008, 04:23 PM
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| | | Re: False Widow Spider Looks like a Steatoda grossa to me.
False widow spiders applies to the Steatoda family, not specifically to one spider.
Though the press always seem to use it for one ( Steatoda nobilis in particular)
It's not going to chase you around the house so relax, just pop it somewhere dark, like a shed or attic (glass and a piece of guard for handling - they can bite but only in self defence.)
(ah beat me too it Ian  )
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10-10-2008, 04:43 PM
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| | | Re: False Widow Spider Quote:
Originally Posted by Venger
(ah beat me too it Ian  ) |  Yes, but i think my advise would be a bit different... like....
you glass and paper and then go put it out in street, a few doors up maybe? | 
10-10-2008, 05:44 PM
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| | | Re: False Widow Spider insects do this all the time; instead of actually being venomous, they just imitate things that are.
just look at these hornet moths, if you saw that form a distance, you'd just steer clear.
of course, that just makes it all the more embarrasing when you call environmental health
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10-10-2008, 08:26 PM
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| | | Re: False Widow Spider Quote:
Originally Posted by squishy insects do this all the time; instead of actually being venomous, they just imitate things that are. | Thing is this spider wasn't imitating anything | 
10-10-2008, 08:49 PM
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| | | Re: False Widow Spider : Quote:
Originally Posted by squishy insects do this all the time; instead of actually being venomous, they just imitate things that are.  | Batesian Mimicry, after Henry Walter Bates
I think Squishy is referring to it's common labelling by the general media, rather than the spider trying to mimic a Black Widow.
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10-10-2008, 09:47 PM
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| | | Re: False Widow Spider Hi! I'm glad I was right about the species of the spider. Are they rare? | 
10-10-2008, 09:51 PM
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| | | Re: False Widow Spider HI! Sorry to say I was advised to kill it. Not something I like to do but I did it the humane way. My children are taking it to school. Thought it might be a good school project. Even though they've been in England for a long time, apparently its not that common to see them. Is that true? | 
10-10-2008, 09:54 PM
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| | | Re: False Widow Spider Reasonably ccommon in the south/south west (near the coast) but it's spreading north.
An olders distribution map: British Arachnological Society: Updated UK Distribution
But they've expanded north since then.
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