spiders for ID

[squishy]

possibly them same species.

Id would be much appreciated

found them on a nettle bank
mabye 15-20mm from tips of the legs





thanks in advance

[Venger]

They are both Pisaura mirabilis, this species presents a very variable pattern and colour, though it's a very pretty spider.

[squishy]

thanks for that- i thought they were pretty to, they have a sort of velvet look to them