3 spider id's needed

[chocolatechip]

hello i've got three more spiders that need id's please.

the two small spiders were about 6mm and the other was about 15mm.

thanks

[Lord V]

Rough ID's
#1 Crab spider- probably Xysticus sp.
#2 Sac spider
#3 wolf spider

Brian V.

[Venger]

Can we have some sizes and locations (as in where you found said spiders? as in, high in bush, near water etc)

[chocolatechip]

hey

sizes of spiders bodies, not including legs
1=8mm
2=15mm
3=6mm

1 and 3 were found in the garden by lavendar about 5cm from the ground on concrete
2 was found in my house on the ceiling

garden has no water/pond, and is very basic.

and i live in dorset

thanks

[chocolatechip]

this is spider number 2's underside, don't know if this will help.

[Venger]

1:I agree with Lord V, Xysticus sp most likely X.cristatus
2: Still working on this one
3: Wolf spider: Most likely a member of the Pardosa family possibly Pardosa hortensis however that is a loose guess

[chocolatechip]

i've looked at some pictures of the X.cristatus and they seem light yellow in colour, however my spider was a grey colour, are there variances in colour?
any luck with number 2? i thought it could be,,,clubiona corticalis ????
or maybe something similar?
how would u be able to findout which wolf spider, it is, or are there too many?

thanksfor your help

[Venger]

1:X.cristatus colours are variable, along with most of the Thomisidae family (I'm not certain if they can alter there colours though it's quite common with these spiders Thomisidae that is.)
2: still looking but see 3 ( I need more info on it - sorry)
3: There are quite a lot of Lycosidae in the UK, and they can look very similar each other -
however these photos aren't sharp or clear enough (no offense) and you can't really give 100% id's from photos, you need to view the male palp or female epigyne (sex organs) under a microscope to give 100% confirmation on species.

[chocolatechip]

hey thanks for your help,

i know my images aren't that great, i've got an old digital camera, and they've been cropped a lot. i can't take any better pictures of number two because i released it into the garden.

maybe it will return.

i don't know what other info i can give, other than it was very quick.

for future reference whats the best angle to get of the spiders?

sj