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21-03-2007, 09:46 PM
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| | | Re: Is this normal?? I emailed your picture to a freind of mine who is zoo keeper at jersey specialising in reptiles ans amphibians - he says it is definitely a prolapsed rectal membrane and definitely not redleg.
he says that the default position at froglife is probably to say redleg if they dont know what it is.
anyway you did the right thing as he also said it was virtually impossible to treat in so small an animal
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22-03-2007, 05:47 PM
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| | | Re: Is this normal?? Yes Susie, you've taken the words out of my mouth!
I've seen a few cases of prolapse and quite a few of redleg.
Prolapse is not ordinarily infectious. | 
22-03-2007, 06:35 PM
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| | | Re: Is this normal?? Do you think the frog was a female and she pushed too hard getting her eggs out and managed to push her bowel out at the same time? Poor old thing.
The more I learn about "experts" the more I realise that they just make most of it up as they go along if they don't know the answer and hope the rest of us don't notice. | 
22-03-2007, 06:42 PM
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| | | Re: Is this normal?? Quote:
Originally Posted by Susie Do you think the frog was a female and she pushed too hard getting her eggs out and managed to push her bowel out at the same time? Poor old thing.
The more I learn about "experts" the more I realise that they just make most of it up as they go along if they don't know the answer and hope the rest of us don't notice. | I thought that, as it is the mating season and the males do give the females a hard time. | 
22-03-2007, 08:04 PM
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| | | Re: Is this normal?? There's something a bit strange about this.
Froglife must receive, perhaps, hundreds of pictures of sick frogs over a year. I'd imagine in many cases it would be very difficult/impossible to give any diagnosis from a picture alone. Particularly, as even Froglife's website states that red leg sometimes causes no external symptoms.
The second of dinger's pictures has an external symptom, even to an amateur, that stands out like a frog with half it's intestines hanging out the back end.
There's a frog site here that states: Quote: |
Rectal and cloacal prolapses are not uncommon and may be secondary to ascites. Prolapse replacement is simple to achieve, but many animals recover spontaneously.
| Apparently 'ascites' is a build up of internal fluid. The same page also says ascites is a common symptom of red leg.
It seems a bit of a jump to me to make the suggested diagnosis they have, but perhaps they are familiar with these prolapses as a secondary symptom of red leg.
Maybe someone should point out this thread to them. | 
22-03-2007, 10:06 PM
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| | | Re: Is this normal?? Ah well, in that case perhaps they have seen enough cases of prolapse as a secondary stage of red leg to be able to diagnose it automatically as such. If that is the case then I owe them an apology. |  | | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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