Rehoming Frogs

[elsbels1234]

Hi all, We are moving house and the people buying it sadly want to fill in our pond. There are 3-5 frogs (and one tiny one I saw yesterday) and am worried about how they will get on once the pond is filled.
Should I rehome them in someone elses garden where they have a pond or just leave them? If they need transporting to another pond what;s the best way to do this and how long will they be ok for in a suitable container?
Thanks.
Phil

[aeshna5]

Personally I would leave them. Frogs only need a pond for breeding + can survive still in the garden. I presume other nearby gardens may have a pond elsewhere.

By moving them there is a risk of disease transportation not to mention stressing these individuals. If the pond is to be filled in, hopefully before the breeding season early in the new year.

[GCN lova]

ive heard common frogs are immune to this disease. if no one nearby has a pond then maybe you could rehome them to a park with a pond. this is normally sort of how common frogs are dying out. if you live near me (sittingbourne, kent) i would be happy to rehome them in my pond .

[aeshna5]

Originally Posted by GCN lova

ive heard common frogs are immune to this disease. if no one nearby has a pond then maybe you could rehome them to a park with a pond. this is normally sort of how common frogs are dying out. if you live near me (sittingbourne, kent) i would be happy to rehome them in my pond .

I didn't specify any particular disease! They can certainly get "red-leg" + even if they are immune to any particular disease it doesn't stop them being carriers.

[bigdave60dog]

I have always had great success with re-homing frogs from ponds that are being filled in etc.
I would be interested to hear of true experiences of proven disease transferring.
Personally I have always introduced frogs into frogless areas. Why these areas were frogless I can only speculate. Possibly disease or agricultural chemicals eliminated the previous frogs but I have yet to be unsuccessful when introducing adult frogs to these areas.
Dave

[Kayleigh]

Originally Posted by bigdave60dog

I have always had great success with re-homing frogs from ponds that are being filled in etc.
I would be interested to hear of true experiences of proven disease transferring.
Personally I have always introduced frogs into frogless areas. Why these areas were frogless I can only speculate. Possibly disease or agricultural chemicals eliminated the previous frogs but I have yet to be unsuccessful when introducing adult frogs to these areas.
Dave

Just because you don't see the outcome of your actions does not mean there is no impact on them..
Please read the advice from these people..

Froglife

I am with dogghound the frogs will find a new pond in the spring to breed.

[aeshna5]

Originally Posted by Kayleigh

Just because you don't see the outcome of your actions does not mean there is no impact on them..
Please read the advice from these people..

Froglife

I am with dogghound the frogs will find a new pond in the spring to breed.

I think you meant me as Dogghound hasn't contributed (yet) to this one!

[GCN lova]

Originally Posted by aeshna5

I think you meant me as Dogghound hasn't contributed (yet) to this one!

LOL. i didnt really mean to refer to the disease you were talking about. ive heard from some website that apparently they are immune to a disease but im not sure whether that was red leg or some other disease (if there are any other amphibian diseases).

Big Dave, when i was 5 or 6 years younger (im 14 now) i used to rehome tadpoles from drying pools with great sucess. ive done the same with common frogs etc and had no difficulties too. i dont mean to approve it but if they are crammed together in an isolated pond i would try to rehome them (to the closest place possible).

[jaelen]

I would advise anyone wanting to rehome frogs or tadpoles to PLEASE read this article first-

Frog disease spreads across the UK | Wildlife News

because ranavirus is serious- it can wipe out entire frog populations within a very short time once it takes hold; it is now believed to be partially responsible for the overall decline of frogs- not just in this country but also in America, Canada, and it's now spread to the Netherlands.

The journal "The Scientific American" in October 2010 said that:

"where ranavirus is present in the U.K., common frog populations have dropped 81 percent in the last 12 years. The disease causes infected frogs to bleed to death through hemorrhaging organs and skin ulcerations."

The publication "Ecology and pathology of amphibian ranaviruses" (Gray, MJ; Miller, DL; Hoverman, JT (2009) says that:

"Ranaviruses are relatively stable in aquatic environments, persisting several weeks or longer outside a host organism."


This means that if you happen to innocently rehome a frog carrying the infection and it later dies, that virus will stay in the water several WEEKS afterwards... infecting every frog that later comes to that pond....
so I would think very carefully before I rehomed- I might take a frog to a neighbour across the road from me, (just to cut down on the chances of it being run over) because the odds are the frogs from my pond and any she might have would have a high likelihood of being in contact already.

I wouldn't take the chance of introducing frogs or spawn into a completely new location, even if just a few streets away.

[Kayleigh]

Originally Posted by jaelen

I would advise anyone wanting to rehome frogs or tadpoles to PLEASE read this article first-

Frog disease spreads across the UK | Wildlife News

because ranavirus is serious- it can wipe out entire frog populations within a very short time once it takes hold; it is now believed to be partially responsible for the overall decline of frogs- not just in this country but also in America, Canada, and it's now spread to the Netherlands.

The journal "The Scientific American" in October 2010 said that:

"where ranavirus is present in the U.K., common frog populations have dropped 81 percent in the last 12 years. The disease causes infected frogs to bleed to death through hemorrhaging organs and skin ulcerations."

The publication "Ecology and pathology of amphibian ranaviruses" (Gray, MJ; Miller, DL; Hoverman, JT (2009) says that:

"Ranaviruses are relatively stable in aquatic environments, persisting several weeks or longer outside a host organism."


This means that if you happen to innocently rehome a frog carrying the infection and it later dies, that virus will stay in the water several WEEKS afterwards... infecting every frog that later comes to that pond....
so I would think very carefully before I rehomed- I might take a frog to a neighbour across the road from me, (just to cut down on the chances of it being run over) because the odds are the frogs from my pond and any she might have would have a high likelihood of being in contact already.

I wouldn't take the chance of introducing frogs or spawn into a completely new location, even if just a few streets away.

Totally agree..
Like I said before the frogs will disperse and find new homes without interference tadpoles need water to survive frogs do not they only breed in water if there are any frogs on the pond then its filled in they will simply live in the garden then when the time is right they will find a pond to breed if you do take them somewhere else what's stopping them returning the the garden they are in now..

Sorry Aeshna