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05-04-2011, 04:32 PM
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| | | somthing Black and fast
Out today and as i aproached near a old overgrown pond i saw something shoot off at speed through the bluebell cover , it was shiny and looked Black and the part i saw was about an inch thick. no chance of a Photo. any thoughts |
05-04-2011, 05:05 PM
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| | | Re: somthing Black and fast
Grass Snake? These can move exceedingly fast when they want to. |
05-04-2011, 05:13 PM
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| | | Re: somthing Black and fast
I didnt see any yellow band on the neck, don't think they are this far north. i seen plenty down shropshire but never in wigan |
05-04-2011, 05:24 PM
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| | | Re: somthing Black and fast
hi
wigan is definitely not too far north for grass snakes, which was also my first thought.
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05-04-2011, 05:32 PM
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| | | Re: somthing Black and fast
I honestly can't say either way but if it was its the first one i have ever seen around here, it is hard when you only get a fleeting glimpse of a part of something. the ones i saw in Shropshire had a green tinge to them. It was definitely something cold blooded as it had clearly been taking in the afternoon sun. |
05-04-2011, 08:58 PM
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| | | Re: somthing Black and fast
grass snakes vary in colour and can be very dark green with less obvious collars and even melanistic.
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05-04-2011, 09:00 PM
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| | | Re: somthing Black and fast
Mammal? reptile? Any idea?
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05-04-2011, 09:08 PM
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| | | Re: somthing Black and fast
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Originally Posted by Farplace  Mammal? reptile? Any idea? | Definitely not mammal, you just know when something is different or unusual thats why i remember it, it didn't seem to have a gait although it could have been the tail , however black slightly shiny fast and in my opinion an all too perfect place for a reptile sunning itself, it didn't dive into the water either. |
05-04-2011, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by nige I didnt see any yellow band on the neck, | IME, unless you're lucky enough to spot one basking or hunting, all you ever see of a grass snake is its back end as it disappears head-first into the vegetation, no chance of seeing the collar.
On a tangent; if grass snakes were spreading north, would melanistic forms become more common because they warm up quicker in the sun?
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06-04-2011, 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by nige I didnt see any yellow band on the neck, don't think they are this far north. i seen plenty down shropshire but never in wigan | Wigan has grass snakes. There is also a specially made area for them at Orrel water park. Adders are quite common at Risley moss also, so it is acceptable to believe they are in wigan too. | | | |
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