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29-11-2009, 12:40 PM
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| | | Salamanda
I can remember as a child back in the sixties catching salamanda in the ponds on my local industrial estate. Yet i read that they are not native to this country and cannot survive our climate, puzzled?
They weren't great crested or palmate newts as we used to catch them also, the saamanda were about three or four times there size. Deep black in colour with bright orange patches.
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29-11-2009, 01:00 PM
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| | | Re: Salamanda
escaped pets? |
29-11-2009, 02:35 PM
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| | | Re: Salamanda
Hi, that looks like a fire salamander to me (Salamandra salamandra). They are very common where I'm from in Spain but they are not found in Britain and Ireland so perhaps they were scapees as Squishy above as pointed out. |
29-11-2009, 03:57 PM
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| |  Re: Salamanda
It's true they are not native, but are found on the near continent, so probably could survive - they just didn't reach here before we were cut off after the last ice age. However I have heard of escaped/released individuals living in the wild- not sure if there are any viable populations though. |
29-11-2009, 04:24 PM
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| | | Re: Salamanda
Ive heard of smooth newts (which are he same size as palmates) being referred to as crested newts, possibly the big ones were the actual great crested newts. But assuming the smaller ones were great crested and palmates, there have been cases of marbled newts (and i think colonies) in the UK. But fire salamanders as the previous poster has stated seem to fit the descriptions best |
29-11-2009, 05:35 PM
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29-11-2009, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by marvin  | But they are listed on p.148 in the recent Wildguides Britain's Reptiles + Amphibians by Howard Inns in a list of species recorded living wild in UK as introductions or escapes. |
29-11-2009, 08:45 PM
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They are often pets so could have been. |
29-11-2009, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by aeshna5 But they are listed on p.148 in the recent Wildguides Britain's Reptiles + Amphibians by Howard Inns in a list of species recorded living wild in UK as introductions or escapes. | cheers. i've heard very good things about the guide...must put it on my christmas list!
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30-11-2009, 05:42 PM
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| | | Re: Salamanda
could have been escaped pets, but back then we were finding dozens of them and wide spread. Now none. | | | |
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