A couple of moths from South Wales

[AdamTilt]

Hi all.

Can anyone help in the identification of these two moths please as I'm not having much luck.





Many thanks,
Adam

[aeshna5]

Lower looks like a Dingy Footman.

[Cordaline]

I'd say the top pic is one of the Wainscot's.
Unsure of which though.
Do you have another shot from a different angle?

[AdamTilt]

Thanks both for your comments. I have another couple of photos of the top moth.





I did notice that the moth had a large black dot on the underside of its body if that helps with identification.

Many thanks.
Adam

[Cordaline]

Lovely pics.
I was hoping of shots of the wings so as to markings on the wings.