pug i.d. help please

[Graham Barker]

hello and thanks for looking in...
havent been on here for a while...so hope all your moth trapping is going well...i have just started here in Hastings...heres some pugs i would like osme help with....many thanks in advance for all your assistance...

graham

1 is this a brindled pug?



2 and 3...pugs...any ideas...and also, any ideas if there is something in partiuclar to look for in i.d. ing pugs??

[ornithom]

Hi Graham,

You've hit on one of the trickiest groups that I've come across since starting this moth-trapping game. It's always a challenge, even with well marked examples!

There are a couple of good articles around the web, particularly one on the Lancashire moths website (http://www.lancashiremoths.co.uk/vis...0%208.4.10.pdf) and the UKMoths website has some good images.

The key thing to grasp I've found (and this helps with worn individuals) is the wing shape and body length as this is usually a good place to start.

I have to admit though that at least a quarter of my pugs from last year went unidentified simply because without a wing full of scales they are too difficult!

With this in mind however, I would tentatively suggest that all 3 of your pugs would be Brindled. But as I say, it is tentative for the reasons outlined above!!

Regards and happy mothing,

Steve T

[Lindsay-c]

What may also be helpful is if you indicated the month in which these pictures were taken, I assume recently/this month?

[JennyS]

Not sure about the first but the other two look good for Brindled (but I'm seriously struggling with Pugs)

[Graham Barker]

hello
thanks for all the feedback....indeed...a hard group and ive struggled with them since i started mothing a couple of years ago.....
i came up with the brindled i.d. on the first pic because of the dark lines at angles to each other seemed to fit....and yes, the pics were taken a couple of days ago....
thanks again for your help....it is very much appreciated.

graham