Moth I.d. this time please

[shenk1]

Keeping you busy tonight......

This moth seen in the garden in the afternoon.



And just for good luck (and because I've no idea what to class it as)



Cheers,shenk1

[RICHARDM]

Have a look at Udea Lutealis Regards Richard

[shenk1]

That'll do for me , cheers Richard

Any ideas for the other?

[Jason Green]

Afternoon Shenk,

I'm not really too into moths so don't really look here usually. Anyway, the beetle is an Oedemera sp. Do you have any additional images? It doesn't seem too conclusive to me as either O. nobilis, or either O. virescens/lurida which are a more sage-green (though where I am the usual shining-green nobilis is occasionally showing sage/bronze in the form of wear).

Eitherway it's a girl!

Take care,

Jason

[shenk1]

Sossy Jason ,only other pic is practically the same.I did get another shot from different angle but the combination of wind (not mine),new macro lens(why do you think I'm suddenly trying to id lots of insects),and my general noviceness made them to blurry to make out

Thanks for looking (more coming soon)

shenk1

[Jason Green]

Blurry or not - it may just help to make the shape of the pronotum a little clearer in my mind

EDIT: Looking again (I find going back to an image after ten minutes often helps if I'm having trouble!), I think it's either Oedemera lurida/virescens - nobilis should have deeper ridges on the wing-cases, and their ground colour looks better for sage than worn shing-green would, in my opinion.

Seperation of lurida/virescens is a little tough, and I'd prefer a specimen - males are by genitalia, and females are done by sternites. Relative size of both can also help, but I think up in Barnsley it could be virescens. Just my opinion though!

[shenk1]

I'll dig through my deleted files and get them on but it could be tomorrow by the time I find them .I WILL get them though.Watch this space.

Cheers,shenk1

[Jason Green]

My WAB motto seems to be 'Post once, proof-read twice and edit three times '; the contents of my last post may have changed since you read it

[shenk1]

As promised (I know you changed your post but once I set out to find something........)

[oxycera]

There's only one Oedemera in Barnsley - lurida.