More Various Moths for I.D.

Treehawk · #1 (**permalink**) 05-03-2010, 09:08 AM

Right,
here's some more...

A few waves, the last one seemed distinctive but I still couldn't find it anywhere.

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One of the Thorns? Could not find this one either.

Crambid

Noctuid

Adelid

Another moth I found a while back (of which I did not bother to photograph annoyingly) was a small little brown moth that held its wings over its back (like a carpet), the moth expert I was with says it was a micro but I cannot find it amongst them. I really wish I took a picture of that one now, it seemed special...

Jason Green · #2 (**permalink**) 05-03-2010, 07:44 PM

Evening TH,

I would say a Wave species (Geometridae) and the Crambid is likely Agriphila tristella.

Are these all UK photographs? I seem to remember you having relocated...

Take care,

Jason

Treehawk · #3 (**permalink**) 06-03-2010, 05:02 AM

Yes, these are all from england. I think I might have found the last wave. How does Bright Wave sound to you?

Jason Green · #4 (**permalink**) 06-03-2010, 11:27 AM

Yes, it looks OK. What part of the country did you find it in? Those in the South-east are rare native individuals and others are thought to be migrants according to UKMoths.

ChrisR · #5 (**permalink**) 06-03-2010, 01:45 PM

The adelid is Nemophora metallica - a specialist on Field Scabious - yours is a female ovipositing. Also watch out for small ichneumons that follow the moths about laying their own eggs into the moth's eggs.

BTW, it is good etiquette to add date seen and location to help the experts judge which species you have seen

Bennyboymothman · #6 (**permalink**) 06-03-2010, 01:49 PM

Hi there

The Thorn is 'Little Thorn'
The Noctuid is 'Lesser Yellow Underwing'

Hope that helps.

Treehawk · #7 (**permalink**) 07-03-2010, 09:50 AM

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BTW, it is good etiquette to add date seen and location to help the experts judge which species you have seen

Yes that probably would have been a good idea first....The adelid, Bright Wave and Little Thorn were from Old Whinchester Hill. The noctuid was from Moors Valley CP. The others were around the New Forest.

MikeS · #8 (**permalink**) 14-03-2010, 06:00 PM

Try Dwarf Cream Wave for the first one. In addition to giving a date and location, it is good to include a ruler in the photo, or if that is impracticable, give the wingspan, or even the length as photographed.

MikeS · #9 (**permalink**) 14-03-2010, 06:38 PM

Is the green colourcast in the second pic correct? I do not think that Bright Wave is right for the third pic - it would be less strongly patterned. Also they are extremely rare - 4 sites in Kent and a migrant every 5 years on the south coast. Still, someone has to find the migrant! I am also unhappy about Little Thorn - it should not have the point in the outer forewing line, and the trailing edge to the hindwing should be more scalloped. But since I have nothing better to offer perhaps I should shut up. Anyway, its time for dinner, where I can read my moth books and stick the pages together with gravy. It will make a change from the breakfast marmalade I use in the morning after emptying the moth trap.

Treehawk · #10 (**permalink**) 15-03-2010, 04:53 AM

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Also they are extremely rare - 4 sites in Kent and a migrant every 5 years on the south coast. Still, someone has to find the migrant!..

The date isn't right for the Old Winchester Hill trip. That photo must have been taken in France at Le Monts D'eraines, the same place where I found the Faust's Burnet.... Same goes for the Adelid....