some moths for id

[Lesinlondon]

Can someone kindly id these moths. Plus, Skippers are moths, I think, not a great picture, but possible to id? Thanks. Les.

[Jenny W]

1. Silver Y, rather worn specimen!

2. A plume moth, Pterophoridae - sorry not sure which.

3. Grapholita compositella

4. Large Skipper, Ochlodes sylvanus. Skippers are grouped with the butterflies rather than the moths - but really there is no difference between a butterfly and a moth. I've heard somewhere recently that the Skippers are now considered taxonomically a separate Superfamily from the rest of the butterflies.

[Lesinlondon]

Thanks Jenny! Oh, didn't realise that was a rather worn Silver Y, poor thing. Ta for the info re Skippers! Les.

[JRsbugs]

Try Platyptilia pallidactyla for #2, one I had last year feeding on Achillea.

Janet