Moth i.d. help

[Words]

Saw this in the garden tonight and managed a quick shot. Quite large (how technical is that? ) and would welcome some help with the identification.



Thanks

[CapAndBracket]

Try Phlogophora meticulosa (Angle shades).

Cheers J.P.

[Words]

Thanks J.P.

[Dan Salter]

And nicely captured with open wings...i actually had to think for a split second what it was! (another reason why i dont fancy the Skinner book)

And yes i know he is your friend Nature girl

[Words]

Thanks Dan.

[naturegirl]

Ha ha Dan!!!!

Very funny!!!! Not!!

Naturegirl

[John]

I'm the same as you Dan. I can't recall ever seeing an Angle Shades with its wings open before so when I saw this photo I had to look twice at it.

John

Originally Posted by Dan Salter

And nicely captured with open wings...i actually had to think for a split second what it was! (another reason why i dont fancy the Skinner book)

And yes i know he is your friend Nature girl

[Words]

I didn't appreciate quite how lucky a shot that was. I've popped it into the main Gallery. Thanks again!

[Hantsmoths]

Originally Posted by Dan Salter

And nicely captured with open wings...i actually had to think for a split second what it was! (another reason why i dont fancy the Skinner book)

And yes i know he is your friend Nature girl

Surely that's an argument FOR Skinner?

[Dan Salter]

Originally Posted by Hantsmoths

Surely that's an argument FOR Skinner?

How? i have come across many many angle shades while trapping and this is the first time i have come across one open winged!....the lewington book shows it closed winged which is its natural pose and how (until this pic) i have always come across them so identifying is easy.

Let me come at this Skinner debate from another angle (no shades in sight).

Take a persian cat...you can all spot one...flat faced and a massive ball of fluff/fur. If you bought a book on identifying different types of persian cat you would expect them all to look like that. However...bring out a book of persian cats that have fallen in the garden pond and are all soaking wet which is NOT the natural or normal way in which you see them...and then try to find your 'ball of fluff' pet among the pics of 'drowned moggys' would be extremely hard....am i right or am i right?