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21-04-2008, 04:04 PM
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| | | 3 Unidentified Moths
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1. Thought this might be a micromoth, because it seemed similar to a pyralid I once caught.
2. Got as far as Plume moth, but a species/genus name would be nice.
3. Intrestingly, this moth was not gold, but looks as if it is in the picture? Any ideas about why this may have happened? The macro setting I was using meant that the flash was turned off, but I was using artificial light.
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21-04-2008, 04:10 PM
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| | | Re: 3 Unidentified Moths
#1 is a Pug. It's nicely marked so someone might recognise it but they are often genitalia jobs. That's as far as I can go. |
21-04-2008, 04:10 PM
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| | | Re: 3 Unidentified Moths
Number 1 is a Double-striped Pug
2, I'm not good with micros, but I think this is Emmelina monodactyla
3 is very faded, so it may be difficult to get an id, it looks like one of the early noctuids, if I had to say one then maybe a Small Quaker.
I think the golden appearance is an effect of the light reflecting off the scales, I've seen it a few times before.
Guy
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21-04-2008, 05:58 PM
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| | | Re: 3 Unidentified Moths
Entirely agree with Guy for all three: Double-striped Pug, plume Emmelina monodactyla, and unidentified noctuid.
Someone once told me that a distinctive feature for Emmelina monodactyla is to look at the spurs on the hind leg - the first pair of spurs (i.e. those nearest the body) are markedly asymmetrical, i.e. the inner one is much longer than the outer. This is shown very well in the photo (especially if you click on the enlarged version of the image), and this is a good clue that it is monodactyla.
Does anyone know if monodactyla is the only UK plume moth to have these unequal spurs?
Martin
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21-04-2008, 06:10 PM
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| | | Re: 3 Unidentified Moths
I agree with the pug and plume moth, the 3rd could possibly a species of Wainscot? |
21-04-2008, 06:33 PM
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| | | Re: 3 Unidentified Moths
Thanks for all your help and suggestions, this forum is really invaluable |
21-04-2008, 07:44 PM
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| | | Re: 3 Unidentified Moths
do you have any more pictures of the noctuid (no 3)? - looks interesting
cheers, Tristan |
21-04-2008, 07:46 PM
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| | | Re: 3 Unidentified Moths
1 Double-striped Pug - Geometridae
2 Emmelina monodactyla - Pterophoridae
3 Possibly a worn Quaker or Drab sp. - Noctuidae The gold colouring comes due to the fact that it has lost the vast majority of its scales that provide the normal colour/markings. All moths go a bronzey transparent colour in time due to wear and tear.
Cheers,
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