Two Small Moths

Dogghound · #1 (**permalink**) 24-09-2007, 08:46 PM

Any ideas on either species? both found earlier in the year around june,

Cheers

tristanba · #2 (**permalink**) 24-09-2007, 08:59 PM

Hi, first is Light Brown Apple Moth, the second much more tricky. Its an Epiblema, ID to sp really requires dissection. E. cirsiana is a likely candidate, what was the habitat/location?

Dogghound · #3 (**permalink**) 24-09-2007, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tristanba

Hi, first is Light Brown Apple Moth, the second much more tricky. Its an Epiblema, ID to sp really requires dissection. E. cirsiana is a likely candidate, what was the habitat/location?

Location north yorkshire, Habitat Meadow on the edge of a small area of woodland.

tristanba · #4 (**permalink**) 24-09-2007, 09:07 PM

E. cirsiana is the most likely, but can't rule out E. scutulana (a recent split). Both on Thistle in wood edge/meadow habitats.

goosey · #5 (**permalink**) 24-09-2007, 09:08 PM

Hi Dogghound, I think number 2. could be a Pammena argyrana.

Dogghound · #6 (**permalink**) 24-09-2007, 09:24 PM

Do both species vary in colour? the brown light apple looks different in photos, what is the other you both have different opinions cheers

goosey · #7 (**permalink**) 24-09-2007, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dogghound

Do both species vary in colour? the brown light apple looks different in photos, what is the other you both have different opinions cheers

I am not sre that number 1. is a Light Brown apple moth, but suspect it is aTortix of some sort.

tristanba · #8 (**permalink**) 24-09-2007, 09:32 PM

LBA Moth is quite variable but shape and general colouration very distinctive. Have a look on UK moths UKMoths and check out Epiblema and Pammene sp also