Garden moth identifications...more help needed..

[JonSadler]

Hi all,

Here are two more moths from my garden moth trap that I cannot identify. I am assuming they are either pyralids or micros. Again picture quality is poor...no tripod.

moth 1



Moth 2



Any help greatly appreciated. Hopefully I'll have better images when my tripod arrives.

thanks

Jon

[John]

Hi Jon

The first one will go down as an Ermine agg as there are more than one that it could be (Apple / Orchard Ermine etc. To correctly ID them it would come down to genitalia dissection. Here is a link to a few of those I was talking about. UKMoths

The second is Chrysoteuchia culmella and here is a link to that moth. UKMoths - Chrysoteuchia culmella

I know this moth well as I catch loads of them in my garden, as I do the Ermine's (but not in such a quantity as the other moth). You are right in that they are Macros. The first moth is a member of the family Yponomeutidae and is a Yponomeutinae and the second is indeed a Pyralid and is a Crambinae.

Hope that helps

John

[JonSadler]

Hi John,

Yes that's a great help. I have looked at the links and checked out the details. I have to use a lot of fatal trapping as part of my research (on riparian Coleoptera) so I want to keep the moth work non-fatal. I also need to borrow a few more lep keys from the library to wise up on the species that are not in Harding.

Regards

Jon