2 moths for ID

[goosey]

This one had about a 30mm wingspan and was in the buddleia.





The second I didn't see with the wings spread out but it's body length was 1.5cm.



Any Ideas? Thank you

[Wightman]

First one is the Herald second looks like a Clay

[Davidg]

No 1 is The Herald - a lovely moth. No2 is probably The Clay but the pic isn't clear enough to be sure, could be White-point.

David

[goosey]

Originally Posted by Wightman

First one is the Herald second looks like a Clay

Thanks Wightman, you are right about the Herald, even when I misjudged the size, it's difficult balancing on a ladder looking up with a torch in one hand and camera in the other -sorry
I did consider The Clay, but the one I saw on Back Garden Moths looked hairier, and the ones on UK moths looked too different. I didn't realise there were so many types of Clays!
Thanks

[Wightman]

Dave's right the pic isn't quite clear enough to be certain. I get White-points and Clays here, the Clays are slightly thicker set, and the white mark is usually rounder on the W-p

[goosey]

Originally Posted by Davidg

No 1 is The Herald - a lovely moth. No2 is probably The Clay but the pic isn't clear enough to be sure, could be White-point.

David

Sorry David, I didn't see your reply when I answered Wightman - nothing personal

I checked out the Herald and you are both right - and It is a lovely moth. It's the first I have seen. I think I will go with the Clay. thanks for your help .