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Conversation Between the young hunter and jeffnsue

Conversation Between the young hunter and jeffnsue

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10-07-2011 08:07 PM - permalink
jeffnsue

Mike, it was my chum Clive who sent the pictures to me. I thought the first orchid was Broad-leaved Helleborine and asked for the Green-flowered to be confirmed. Clive's favourite ID for that second plant was Narrow-leaved, but it was so out of context that he couldn't believe it possible. There's no chance of that is there?

In any event I'm going to the site tomorrow with Clive & Dorts and will advise you of the exact location once I know it.

Jeff
06-07-2011 10:29 AM - permalink
the young hunter

Ah yes, I've been there a couple of times :) Wondered whether you might have seen them there. I just saw thousands of Pyramidal when I went, though that was about 5 years ago.

Mike.
06-07-2011 06:15 AM - permalink
jeffnsue

Mike, the Fragrant Orchids I mentioned were at Llanermynech Rocks under the quarry face at the bottom of a deep dip. About a dozen spikes of Common Fragrant.

Jeff
06-07-2011 06:12 AM - permalink
jeffnsue

Thanks Mike, Fly Orchids too at Hopton, I see, and several other DWT reserves nearby.
We'll try and get over therelater this month.

Jeff
05-07-2011 10:12 PM - permalink
the young hunter

Hi Jeff,

Oddly enough, I've recently been researching the possible persistence of Frog Orchids in Shropshire. There were, up until about 1998, 2 or 3 fairly regular sites for the species. The strongest population was apparently at Craig Sychtyn near Oswestry (a tiny area of limestone grassland and woodland). There were also erratic records from Wenlock Edge and Lynclys Common but no really strong colonies. Anyway, after speaking to and corresponding via email with a woman from the Shropshire Wildlife Trust, it turns out the species hasn't been seen for about a decade due to shading out of the grassland at Craig Sychtyn. It's a real shame. The nearest place for you now is probably Derbyshire where there are a few colonies. Have a look at this>>
Quarries: Hopton quarry

Mike.
05-07-2011 10:13 AM - permalink
jeffnsue

Hi Mike, I'm keen to photograph Frog Orchid this year if I can, I've only ever seen one and that was in Wiltshire. We live in Chester and I could do with finding a site nearer home.

You seem to know Shropshire fairly well and the distribution maps seem to suggest Frog Orchid occurs there. Do you have any suggestions where we should be looking please.

I will understand if this is not the type of information which you want to reveal, but it's worth asking.

Thanks

Jeff
03-07-2011 02:20 PM - permalink
the young hunter

Hi Jeff,

Thanks for asking.
You're correct - divulging site details of our rarest species (particularly the rarest that come under the protection of the Wildflower and Countryside Act as schedule 1 species) is a definite no no.

Species with which we should be extra careful, and only use counties, are:

Lady's slipper
Red helleborine
Military, Monkey orchid
Fen orchid
Ghost orchid (I wish)
Irish lady's tresses
Dense flowered orchid
Lizard orchid
Tongue orchid
Late spider orchid.
Other less rare species perhaps we could use "south cumbria" or another generic description.

(I've copied and pasted this from a thread on Birdforum called '2011 UK Orchid season updates' where people update their orchid finds throughout the year).

As for sharing site details, this can be done via Private Messages. You can send a private message by clicking on the user's name and a drop down list should appear with various options.

Hope that clears things up!

Mike.
03-07-2011 07:15 AM - permalink
jeffnsue

Hi Mike, I'm sorry to pick on you to answer this question for me, but can you tell me the convention on naming sites where orchid species can be found. Presumably it's OK to say 'these Marsh Orchids were photographed at Bodeilio' but I guess the situation is more complex with rarities.

For example, I would have liked to see the Fly Orchids there but had no idea where to look. The exact location of that local rarity should not be posted on open forum. It seems to be OK to say it's at Bodeilio but you wouldn't say 'it's ten yards to the west of the gatepost on the public footpath'. Is that the convention?

Finally, if I was interested in going to a certain site for a certain 'special' orchid is there a mechanism whereby members give details of locations or not?

I don't want to get my knuckles rapped for saying the wrong thing.

Jeff

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