The rat in our garden...

[Lindsay-c]

Thanks, again, for the further responses,

You make a good point Poacher, however if I let the ratty go in the countryside then I have done my best for it and I have a clear conscience

I would like to leave the rat where it is, although I preferred the mice, however once my neighbours notice it I know they wil put poison down and I worry about the many birds and hedgehogs that visit which may be affected.

As for coming in the house there were dropings in the kitchen cuboard from the mice and if the mouseys could get in I'm sure ratty probably can too. Although I put some used bedding which my ferrets had slept in into the cuboard which I thought the scent of them might deter the miceys and it seemed to and maybe that would work for ratty while I find the entrance from the outside of the house and block it up...

Not really sure what to do now but I think the poison is best avoided, so perhaps the rat/s may still have to be sent to the country as a sacrafice for the hogs and birds...

[the poacher]

Originally Posted by ~T~

Do not forget that this is a RAT, an animal that had colonised the globe thanks to it's love of travelling. I don't think a little trip to the countryside will phase it

love of travelling, don't be so romantic,rats were brought here by man the same as rabbits,mink the grey squirrel american crayfish to name but a few, plus numerous plants that infest our waterways and natural vegetation.like the suburban fox who people would like to dump in the country side where the little buggers are not wanted anyway.people should be responsible for there own little environment without landing it on my door step where i have to deal with it humanely or not.people have to wise up and realise they cant just pass the buck.take your rat,your unwanted cat,dog,pet snake, terrapin and god knows what else and dump it in the countryside where it can crawl under my roof where i just might have the guts to deal with it.

[Lindsay-c]

Well,

Perhaps we should all go back to where we originated from as well then.
Or pack our German shepherd off to Germany.

In MY opinion:

Rat is over populated pest.

Human is over populated pest.


If I was going to have the 'guts' to kill it then I might as well gun down every human in sight before shooting myself

We are equal the rat and ourselves. Only a tiny difference in DNA. Only the rat has more innocence.

So what if I actually decided to 'land it on someone elses doorstep' and they kill it.

Least it wasn't me who be the hypocrit It aint my fault or the rats fault they are here. And there's already rats in countryside so not like I'm introducing it eh.

I do apologise if my outburst offends, I expected people would suggest killing it but I stated in my first post "I do not wish to kill it" and was wanting to hear if anyone had ideas of what else I could do.

Anyway, enough of that, no sign of ratty the past few days *shrugs*

[wizzo]

Originally Posted by the poacher

love of travelling, don't be so romantic,rats were brought here by man the same as rabbits,mink the grey squirrel american crayfish to name but a few, plus numerous plants that infest our waterways and natural vegetation.like the suburban fox who people would like to dump in the country side where the little buggers are not wanted anyway.people should be responsible for there own little environment without landing it on my door step where i have to deal with it humanely or not.people have to wise up and realise they cant just pass the buck.take your rat,your unwanted cat,dog,pet snake, terrapin and god knows what else and dump it in the countryside where it can crawl under my roof where i just might have the guts to deal with it.

I think you're making a lot of generalisations there Poacher Besides which, the countryside belongs to us all, so we should all have a say it how it's managed. I always thought that one of the joys of living in a rural enviroment was having a varied and diverse wildlife population. Who say's that foxes aren't welcome in the countryside? Or are you the self appointed spokes-person for the whole countryside? Wizzo

[the poacher]

Originally Posted by wizzo

I think you're making a lot of generalisations there Poacher Besides which, the countryside belongs to us all, so we should all have a say it how it's managed. I always thought that one of the joys of living in a rural enviroment was having a varied and diverse wildlife population. Who say's that foxes aren't welcome in the countryside? Or are you the self appointed spokes-person for the whole countryside? Wizzo

that is exactly what i was doing,"having a say in how its managed".never did i say the fox was not welcome in the countryside because that is where it belongs,"the suburban fox",in my post,was the topic of that paragraph, you should read the post thoroughly before you are quick to pick up your pen and generalise me

[wizzo]

But you're still generalising about the whole population of the countryside, suburban fox or not! I think what you meant to say was "where the little buggers are not wanted ....BY ME" Wizzo

[the poacher]

Originally Posted by wizzo

But you're still generalising about the whole population of the countryside, suburban fox or not! I think what you meant to say was "where the little buggers are not wanted ....BY ME" Wizzo

you haven't even got to the task of the problem in hand.People should not be encouraged just to drop there unwanted,infected, downgraded ,mangy has me downs,BOGOF attitude into the countryside where they do not belong .

[the poacher]

Originally Posted by Lindsay-c

Well,

Perhaps we should all go back to where we originated from as well then.
Or pack our German shepherd off to Germany.

In MY opinion:

Rat is over populated pest.

Human is over populated pest.


If I was going to have the 'guts' to kill it then I might as well gun down every human in sight before shooting myself

We are equal the rat and ourselves. Only a tiny difference in DNA. Only the rat has more innocence.

So what if I actually decided to 'land it on someone elses doorstep' and they kill it.

Least it wasn't me who be the hypocrit It aint my fault or the rats fault they are here. And there's already rats in countryside so not like I'm introducing it eh.

I do apologise if my outburst offends, I expected people would suggest killing it but I stated in my first post "I do not wish to kill it" and was wanting to hear if anyone had ideas of what else I could do.

Anyway, enough of that, no sign of ratty the past few days *shrugs*

well yes,kill it,*shrugs*
i shug

[witham]

if you don't mind the rat being in your garden, put an upside cone on the pole of your bird table so it can't get up or grease it so it will slide down before it reaches the top, we watched a squirrel repeatedly doing the same until it eventually gave up. one thing to consider though is that rats along with other rodents are practically incontinent and leave a trail of urine on whatever they climb up on or over and if we touch this or water infected by it, it's possible to catch any of up to six diseases including leptrospirosis and weils these can be very harmfull to us and especially our children and dogs