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27-10-2010, 01:41 PM
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| | | Re: Britain's biggest wild animal shot dead.
The story's escalated further: BBC News - Emperor Exmoor deer kill brings call for protection
Nothing like some knee-jerk legislation to fix matters!
Not that I expect anything to actually come of this. The motion will remain just a motion and the MPs involved get easy green points in their local constituencies. |
27-10-2010, 05:12 PM
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Stag hunting with hounds remains legal on Exmoor. Just thought you'd like to know....
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27-10-2010, 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by STYRBJORN  Stag hunting with hounds remains legal on Exmoor. Just thought you'd like to know....
Ric | How? The act banning it was nationwide.
Read the Times and Independent arricles on this stag business today, both full of errors and hyperbole. Complete lack of fact-checking, support and accuracy. Makes you despair of the 'quality press'. |
28-10-2010, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by RKB How? The act banning it was nationwide.
Read the Times and Independent arricles on this stag business today, both full of errors and hyperbole. Complete lack of fact-checking, support and accuracy. Makes you despair of the 'quality press'. | Apparently the Exmoor Staghounds chose not to chase the animal in question because of its status. At a guess they don't kill their quarry, or perhaps shoot the beast. The latter can be legally done with foxes.
"quality press" "impartial BBC" indeed. The Independent was egregiously wrong
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28-10-2010, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by salukiwhippet | Everytime something about this animal appears in the press, which has been going on all week now, it is accompanied by a photograph or two by Richard Austin. Presumably he's getting royalties each time. Call me cynical, but he is also the chap who started off this whole story with claims that it had been shot. He couldn't have planned it better....or maybe he did. |
28-10-2010, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by RKB Everytime something about this animal appears in the press, which has been going on all week now, it is accompanied by a photograph or two by Richard Austin. Presumably he's getting royalties each time. Call me cynical, but he is also the chap who started off this whole story with claims that it had been shot. He couldn't have planned it better....or maybe he did. | I wonder if he now has a nice 12-point rack over his fireplace?
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28-10-2010, 11:37 AM
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Britain's biggest wild animal! What happened to Basking Sharks and the Cetaceans then? 
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28-10-2010, 12:02 PM
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| | | Re: Britain's biggest wild animal shot dead.
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Originally Posted by RKB Call me cynical, | Okay, you're cynical! 
Top-notch advertising photographers can be pretty high earners, as can anyone lucky enough to take a photograph of a front-page news story - particularly if the paper is willing to pay for exclusive use. But this image doesn't qualify.
Using an on-line stock photo pricing site, and using the Daily Telegraph with sales just below 700,000, we get...
Type of Use:: Editorial
Specific Use:: Newspaper
Press Run:: 500,000 to 1 million
Size:: 1/4 Page or Spot use
Low Price:: $200.00
Average Price:: $287.50
High Price:: $375.00
Survey ::891
$287.50, the average, is £181.05 in real money. The photo agency will help themselves to anything up to half of that sum (possibly more depending on how many sub-agencies it's passing through) leaving him with maybe £100 - £120. Not bad but hardly earth shattering, especially when you consider that it's before tax and expenses. As it's appeared in most of the nationals he may have got ten times that achieving a gross of £1000 to £1200, still not exactly the wealth of Croesus. But I doubt he got even that much as it looks like the story was syndicated so he would probably have received a one off figure from the syndicator. I'd be surprised if his nett is as much as £500.
For the photo, that is. If he wrote the story too then he'd get more. Newspapers pay more for words than they do for pictures.
Dave P.
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28-10-2010, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by pressld2 Okay, you're cynical!
Top-notch advertising photographers can be pretty high earners, as can anyone lucky enough to take a photograph of a front-page news story - particularly if the paper is willing to pay for exclusive use. But this image doesn't qualify.
Using an on-line stock photo pricing site, and using the Daily Telegraph with sales just below 700,000, we get...
Type of Use:: Editorial
Specific Use:: Newspaper
Press Run:: 500,000 to 1 million
Size:: 1/4 Page or Spot use
Low Price:: $200.00
Average Price:: $287.50
High Price:: $375.00
Survey ::891
$287.50, the average, is £181.05 in real money. The photo agency will help themselves to anything up to half of that sum (possibly more depending on how many sub-agencies it's passing through) leaving him with maybe £100 - £120. Not bad but hardly earth shattering, especially when you consider that it's before tax and expenses. As it's appeared in most of the nationals he may have got ten times that achieving a gross of £1000 to £1200, still not exactly the wealth of Croesus. But I doubt he got even that much as it looks like the story was syndicated so he would probably have received a one off figure from the syndicator. I'd be surprised if his nett is as much as £500.
For the photo, that is. If he wrote the story too then he'd get more. Newspapers pay more for words than they do for pictures.
Dave P. | From what I gather, he is a photographer for the Western Morning News. I don't know if he wrote it, but he supplied a lot of the content (it quotes him extensively) as well as the numerous pics (I've seen about 5 of his in various places). It's then been picked up by the nationals. So it's fair to assume that he is getting something out of it, either directly or through his paper.
Eve if it blows up in his face, and this deer trots out into full view again, it wont do him any harm, as a story is a story. Mind you, this deer is apparently not that special to look at, so there might well be several animals playing the part....like Lassie!  | | | |
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