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09-07-2010, 08:39 PM
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| | | Re: re fox attack in london Quote:
Originally Posted by Chilli Pepper I was enjoying the views on this subject until I found myself embroiled in a debate on grammar! Still, I read on and was amazed. Do people really think that because some from certain areas of Britain talk and write in their dialect, that their views are less valid as a result? And as for our childrens education, what a shame if they do not get to experience the differences from various parts of Great Britain!?
And as for UKwildlifeo stating that "I honestly can't understand the last part of your post" in response to CB, I believe ... well what a load of exaggerated rubbish! How about getting back to the point of foxes, because that would be bostin! | One of the good points about forums, I think, is that it allows you to take your time to make a point or to answer another persons point. This means that you can read over what you have written to ensure that you have made yourself clear, amongst other things. To deliberately make your posts in some sort of dialect appears to me to be deliberately trying to provoke a reaction, and I feel that CB's resorting to ad hominems shows that what he is after is a reaction.
By all means explore the rich variety of the English language, but I would suggest that a wildlife forum is possibly a less suitable place than, for example, a language forum.
I still have a fairly broad Scots accent, but I don't think too many people would be impressed if I started posting in Lallans.
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09-07-2010, 08:45 PM
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| | | Re: re fox attack in london Quote:
Originally Posted by Chilli Pepper Do people really think that because some from certain areas of Britain talk and write in their dialect, that their views are less valid as a result? And as for our childrens education, what a shame if they do not get to experience the differences from various parts of Great Britain!?
! | People from rural areas (whether thats norfolk, or somerset or wherever) dont usually write in exagerated phonetic pronouciation (which is not in fact a dialect at all), certain members were just doing it for effect which is, as was pointed out, against the rules.
and writing in such a way does nothing to enhance a childs education, and in fact demeans the genuine difference in dialect and language that are found across the british isles
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09-07-2010, 10:14 PM
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| | | Re: re fox attack in london Eeyore, I am not saying all people from a certain area writes in a certain way but for some it comes natural to them to do so, that's all I'm saying! Perhaps dialect was the wrong terminology to use but I won't worry about it as this will probably be deleted anyway. The only word that comes to mind for certain views on the discussion right now is pedantic!
Finally I am not saying it should be used to educate our children in the classroom but just think we should embrace different personalities and euphemisms. In fact they are probably worse in their writing ... lol, lmao, gr8 etc etc
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09-07-2010, 10:27 PM
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| | | Re: re fox attack in london Quote:
Originally Posted by Chilli Pepper Eeyore, I am not saying all people from a certain area writes in a certain way but for some it comes natural to them to do so, that's all I'm saying! Perhaps dialect was the wrong terminology to use but I won't worry about it as this will probably be deleted anyway. The only word that comes to mind for certain views on the discussion right now is pedantic!
Finally I am not saying it should be used to educate our children in the classroom but just think we should embrace different personalities and euphemisms. In fact they are probably worse in their writing ... lol, lmao, gr8 etc etc | but in CBs case it clearly isnt his natural style as he admitted to being "rumbled" and went on to say that he had previously won awards for his english - ergo he was writing like that deliberately, which as boddie said is against the rules (text speak is equally not allowed for the same reason)
And as wab is an educational resource if its not an appropriate to use that kind of language/spelling in the class room then it is equally inappropriate to do so here.
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09-07-2010, 10:40 PM
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| | | Re: re fox attack in london Well, I personally think it's just a shame that such an informed and well read country man is chastised for the way he expresses his view! | 
09-07-2010, 11:22 PM
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| | | Re: re fox attack in london Oh yeah the foxes! I believe that there have not been enough studies and documentation on fox attacks in the urban environment for action to be taken now, as far as I am aware.
We as humans have encroached into their environments with urban sprawl and then are shocked at their presence in 'our' environment. From what I remember about the first programme on BBC1 the family stated that they had witnessed foxes in their garden previously, yet still left their back door open knowing foxes were present in the area.
These animals are scavengers, inquisitive and like all animals including ourselves, opportunitists. The young fox may of been exploring 'his/her' territory or looking for food, who knows?!? If attacks increase in magnitude in urban areas then yes, action needs to be taken. However I believe that at the moment there is not enough documented attacks and we need to re-evaluate our beliefs.
Lets face it, a lot of people flock to fast food outlets for their meals and foxes do the same with our cities! I am not blaming the parents of the twins in anyway, it was a horrific attack. We just need to be more careful in our disposal of waste. Maybe if we didn't throw away so much food it wouldn't attract these creatures in such great magnitudes! Hell, I could now rant on about unplanned pregnancies and the resulting increase in population that means we ruin these animals natural habitats as we expand our towns and cities. But you will be glad to know I won't!
Foxes have had to adapt to our presence in their environment, and now we need to do so with theirs! | 
10-07-2010, 09:46 AM
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| | | Re: re fox attack in london One thing you must give Chittling Boy credit for. Taking that name took some guts . . .
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10-07-2010, 10:21 AM
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| | | Re: re fox attack in london Quote:
Originally Posted by Chilli Pepper Eeyore, I am not saying all people from a certain area writes in a certain way but for some it comes natural to them to do so, that's all I'm saying! Perhaps dialect was the wrong terminology to use but I won't worry about it as this will probably be deleted anyway. The only word that comes to mind for certain views on the discussion right now is pedantic!
Finally I am not saying it should be used to educate our children in the classroom but just think we should embrace different personalities and euphemisms. In fact they are probably worse in their writing ... lol, lmao, gr8 etc etc | Absolute rubbish
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10-07-2010, 12:31 PM
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| | | Re: re fox attack in london I think this thread has gone as far as it's going to on the original topic so time to close it before tempers becoem any more frayed.
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